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Salon has a long standing discussion community called Table Talk. All through the Bush years, people I thought of as living-in-the-real-world progressives spent time evaluating what was going on, decrying it and posting excerpts and links to civil libertarians (like Glenn Greenwald) who were helping to expose and explain what was going on. Now?
Now when those of us who maintain the exact same principled stance as before on things like habeus corpus, state secrets, warrantless wiretapping etc. post links and excerpts to news of the new administration, we are labeled trolls, or told we hate Obama, or, even weirder, things like "Hillary lost. Get over it!"
It's a through-the-looking-glass kind of experience. I am left wondering sometimes if I am reading a forum dominated by progressives, or if I have mistakenly clicked over to RedState or The Free Republic and everywhere it says Obama, it really means Bush.
The Obama thread on Salon's Table Talk is here:
http://tabletalk.salon.com/webx?14@@.773dbcf4
The "Constitutional Crisis: Bush Spies on Americans" thread is here:
http://tabletalk.salon.com/webx?14@@.773b6390
I invite people to go to those links and read back several weeks or even months. It isn't pretty. It's...like a cult...that is so "convinced of his intrinsic Goodness that they will believe that even when it seems like he's doing bad things, he must really be doing them for the Good."
As I said on Table Talk, I put my faith in no man. I put my faith in the Constitution of the United States and the rule of law. My country comes before any party, any candidate or any leader. Always.