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Friday, March 27, 2009 12:00 AM

Britain responds to the "rule of law" nuisance

Criminal investigations are now formally launched by America's staunchest ally into allegations of torture.

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Friday, March 27, 2009 05:51 AM

What's wrong with those British?

Their inability to control members of their own government could do serious damage to our war on terror. A number of serious, patriotic members of the former administration are still unable to find work worthy of their expertise. Obama should send them to Britain to help out in correcting this deficiency that so threatens our security and way of life.

Friday, March 27, 2009 06:00 AM

...and he is us

The object of terrorism is to create terror. When Democrats are in power, "we have nothing to fear but fear itself." When Republicans are in power, we sink to their level.

Thanks for the update, Glenn. We need transparency and accountability. Ford's pardon of Nixon looks worse and worse as we get farther away from the crimes that were never fully investigated and the damage to the US that was never allowed to heal.

Obama is smart enough to know that our long, national nightmare is just beginning. Let's see some of that oft cited but never demonstrated "personal responsibility" from the right: Man up, guys, and admit you blew it. America needs you to come clean.

Friday, March 27, 2009 06:01 AM

So, Hicks, the Aussie...

...Had to sign a gag order. But although the Austrailian Government supported Bush, nobody is accusing them of being complicit in the torture of Hicks.

But Mohamed, the Brit, did not have to sign a gag order. And the British intelligence is being accused of being complicit.

And now there will be an investigation in Britain, of British intelligence, by the British.

Obama may object, and did thank Britain (pre-emptively) for keeping all torture information within the "Cone of Silence". But the dirty details of Guantanamo are bound to come out sometime. Obama probably thinks that it's better for these secrets to emerge across the Atlantic, rather than here.

How enforcable is Hicks' gag order?

To what extent any agreements between the US and Brtain regarding state secrets enforcable?

Friday, March 27, 2009 06:06 AM

we can only hope

Mr Greenwald so often i read your posts with something nigh to despair but i find this one at least a bit hopeful . . . perhaps when enuff evidence stares everyone straight in the face president Obama will have the political motivation to move on criminal investigations or maybe better yet, be forced to move on criminal investigations. here's hoping

Friday, March 27, 2009 06:12 AM

@GG re: awards and recognition

I am very grateful that your work is being recognized and awarded across media and venues. The more your work, like Goodman's, is amplified and reaches wider audiences, the better chance we all have to attain an informed public.

Would you consider tweeting links/titles to your post and webcast/podcast publications? I would guess that many people read you from their mobiles and don't have web readers, but are using Twitter.

Thanks - for your incisive writing and interviewing and for serving as such a critical resource to understand what is too often kept hidden and intentionally obfuscated.

Friday, March 27, 2009 06:15 AM

Congrats, Glenn

on your Izzie. Nice to see your tireless work get recognized.

Friday, March 27, 2009 06:20 AM

Please inform us of any preparations to audio / video record the Izzy awards

I'd like to be able to watch that. Or listen to the presentations.

Friday, March 27, 2009 06:28 AM

I can't figure out Twitter, and I need help composing a msg to @glenngreenwald

Somebody needs to coin a phrase, akin to "Rick-rolled", for somebody whose every link sends you somewhere that will inevitably induce your gag reflex.

Case in point -

glenngreenwald Ed Henry, beaming with pride . . . at self. He's an "amazing" "provocative" "gambling" "quarterback" who "pounced" http://tinyurl.com/dlvz3xabout 21 hours ago from web

I don't know, "GGwald-rolled" maybe?

Glenn the Merciless...

Friday, March 27, 2009 06:31 AM

Invite!

Glenn,

Be sure to invite those at yesterday's alleged "Online Town Hall" meeting that scoffed at the #1, #2, and #3 most voted on questions. It seems that even bringing up drug laws is a joke. And apparently the "people online" are also a joke. They must be, considering they have no reason to politic and maintain the collectively assumed lie that a non-lethal popular herb is going to destroy the fabric of American society.

It was very disappointing.

Friday, March 27, 2009 06:35 AM

Two points

1) The Bush Administration tried to get Mohamed to sign a similar deal to that signed by Hicks:

Mr Mohamed would have had to agree not to take part in any legal challenge relating to his "capture, detention or prosecution" against the US, or any of its allies, and any rights to compensation would be assigned to the US government.

He would also have been required to abandon a legal attempt to obtain documents which he believed could prove his innocence.

Clive Stafford Smith, Mr Mohamed's lawyer, said: "This reflects the way the US government has consistently tried to cover up the truth of Binyam Mohamed's torture.

"He was being told he would never leave Guantanamo Bay unless he promised never to discuss his torture, and never sue either the Americans or the British to force disclosure of his mistreatment.

"Gradually the truth is leaking out and the governments on both sides of the Atlantic should pause to consider whether they should continue to fight to keep this torture evidence secret."

Link: http://tinyurl.com/c6s6ku

Note how he was being told that the only way he would ever leave Guantanamo was to sign the agreement not to talk about or file charges for torture. It's a very good thing he had good legal representation through Smith and Yvonne Bradley. Their brave actions are helping a lot to bring these atrocities to light.

2) Obama claimed, during the campaign, that he would prosecute if the evidence were irrefutable. Here is his statement to Will Bunch in April, 2008:

So this is an area where I would want to exercise judgment -- I would want to find out directly from my Attorney General -- having pursued, having looked at what's out there right now -- are there possibilities of genuine crimes as opposed to really bad policies. And I think it's important-- one of the things we've got to figure out in our political culture generally is distinguishing betyween really dumb policies and policies that rise to the level of criminal activity. You know, I often get questions about impeachment at town hall meetings and I've said that is not something I think would be fruitful to pursue because I think that impeachment is something that should be reserved for exceptional circumstances. Now, if I found out that there were high officials who knowingly, consciously broke existing laws, engaged in coverups of those crimes with knowledge forefront, then I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody above the law -- and I think that's roughly how I would look at it.

Emphasis added.

Link: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Barack_on_torture.html

It's getting harder and harder for Obama to deny that we have reached the point where "high officials knowingly, consciously broke existing laws, engaged in coverups of those crimes with knowledge forefront". He can no longer insist that this was just "really dumb policy". The British investigation almost certainly will reveal new details on the depths to which the Bush cabal took this war crime spree. The longer Obama waits to start criminal proceedings here, the more credibility he loses in the world.

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