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Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:00 AM

WSJ Editorial Page: Can a newspaper be more misleading than this?

The right-wing editors complain that Bush could never get away with pre-selecting the reporters who could ask Press Conference questions, even though Bush did exactly that.

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Thursday, February 12, 2009 04:53 AM

Jeff Gannon

Let's not forget the whole Jeff Gannon scandal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon

Thursday, February 12, 2009 05:05 AM

They Don't Need No Stinking Facts

The WSJ Editorial Page has never been constrained by facts or truth. They are not going off in some new direction with this latest fabrication. It is a path they can follow blindfolded.

Thursday, February 12, 2009 05:07 AM

Typical

Wow, It only took 2 years to turn a once respected paper into utter garbage.

How much longer until we see the WSJ in the supermarket checkout line with its competition ?

Thursday, February 12, 2009 05:20 AM

What Goes Around

How 'bout if we now turned around the types of claims about liberals that we've been hearing on right-wing talk radio for the past twenty years:

O'Reilly and the editors at the Wall Street Journal are unhinged.

They all engage in group-think. They are paid by Rupert Murdoch to be his whores.

They hate our President, and so hate America.

Thursday, February 12, 2009 05:41 AM

@Sunny Jim

about that hate thing? How right you are.

They hate you for your freedom, Sunny.

But don't worry, it's nearly all gone.

Thursday, February 12, 2009 05:44 AM

Isn't Paul Gigot still over at the WSJ?

Glenn asks:

Deliberate deceit or complete editorial recklessness from The Wall St. Journal Editorial Page?

To which I say: neither. Given Gigot is (last I checked) the editor of that page of the Journal, my vote is for "generic stupidity".

This is a guy whose exchanges with Mark Shields on the News Hour got dumber the five years I watched it. Any surprise he's managed to drive down the quality of commentary in print as well?

Thursday, February 12, 2009 05:49 AM

For the Right-Wing Noise Machine..

It only matters whose Gore is oxed.

Thursday, February 12, 2009 05:49 AM

Thanks for Shooting Down Another Lie

Wow! Next thing you know, someone will be disdainfully claiming that Obama is defiling the Oval Office when he takes off his suit jacket, and that Bush was much too patriotic ever to consider such disgraceful behavior.

Oh, that's right. That's already happened, and it was likewise PROVEN to be a false statement.

Keep up the good and critically important work, Glenn.

Thursday, February 12, 2009 05:56 AM

I fucking hate the Urinal

Glenn you are so right, they are abominable. They print nothing but lies and somehow get to be regarded as gospel. Absolutely disgusting.

Thursday, February 12, 2009 06:01 AM

If we must have lies, let's have these

On the one hand, I agree with Glenn that it's pathetic how much obviously false and misleading information is allowed to be published in the mainstream press. On the other hand, I think it's good that people are criticizing scripted press conferences. By Glenn's own account they're part of the problem - it's good for your career profile if you ask questions to the pres, and if the White House prescreens questioners, that means your career advancement depends upon staying on their good side.

Given that our media and political culture is deeply corrupt and dishonest, better to have the Democrats in power and the Republicans as the opposition party. That's because the Republicans actually have the organization and the political will for active resistance and obstruction. If we can't have decent politics, let's at least have adversarial politics. That way it's in some people's interests to accidentally tell (part of) the truth, even if truth-telling isn't their motive.

None of this is, of course, meant to suggest that we shouldn't be calling bullshit on the lies and double standards.

Thursday, February 12, 2009 06:01 AM

I kinda feel bad for WSJ reporters...

...they're probably just making a stink about this because they miss being called upon using their cute little nick-names.

Thursday, February 12, 2009 06:09 AM

Don't Forget Reagan

Reagan routinely pre-screened the questions themselves. What are the oddds that the WSJ called St. Ronnie on that ever?

Thursday, February 12, 2009 06:12 AM

What about "Scripting" itself?

Obama, like Bush before him, is using scripted news conferences to whip the press into line, and get them competing for access right off the bat. There is now a mad scramble going on within the press to see who can kiss the administration's ass most fervently, and be justly rewarded --with what? With a pre-arranged sequence of who gets to ask the questions.

But Greenwald either misses that connection or chooses to ignore all that, and instead shoots yet another torpedo into a ship (HMS WSJ) that already has so many holes in it you could slice it and sell it as cheese. Why not criticize Fox News, where you're at it?

Why not at least ask the question--"Why is Obama doing this?" Why not throw a bomb over that way.

Thursday, February 12, 2009 06:12 AM

Outside Of The Op-ed Page I Love The WSJ

but doesn't this beg the question, printing something this factually false, something a ten year old could have fact checked, start to call into question the entire accuracy of the paper? I mean in the rest of the paper they are writing on some pretty complex topics, topics in fact where a story can directly affect the stock of a company and my and your investments.

You'd think the newsroom would understand this and be yelling at management to make it stop. And that this keeps happening again and again, makes me thinks management could care less. I was fearful when NewsCorp bought the WSJ. I am even more fearful now at the direction the paper is going.

Repeatedly printing stuff like this in their editorial section now makes me question the factual content in the rest of the paper. Not a good thing for a person that is a long time (like almost 20 years) paying subscriber!

Thursday, February 12, 2009 06:17 AM

WSJ/ THE FOX NEWS

Glenn, WSJ has just gotten worse and worse and worse since Murdoch took over. It is so bad that it has become its own parody.

Their interview with Gonzo gave me grist for a four page satire that did not have to reword one of his statements. Basically he was working on a book but he could not include national securty issues or anything having to do with ongoing investigations and it was all ok because he had no publisher anyway. I simply responded that I had six blank notebooks and no publisher either.

Not more than a few days ago Rove did an editorial highlighting the successes in w's administration. Basically, we had no terrorist attacks after 9/11/01. All I had to add was that there had been no destructive meteors had hit a major U.S. city and no aliens had landed announcing their plan to harvest the human race as a new food source for their waning planet.

He reiterated, of course, that there was 52 months of solid job growth while w was at the nation's helm. I was reminded of this while banking bigwigs were telling Congress that except for the last year or so, the banking industry had done a pretty good job during the previous seven years.

Meanwhile, Bill Orally is reporting on Fox what a terrible communicator Obama is.

My only point here is that whether it is TPM, Salon or many other web sites, your posts are of the utmost importance and are quoted liberally. Every time someone lies on Fox News or the Fox Newspapers, someone has to stand up and note the lie and refute it, no matter how inane or how silly.

You and a few other sites like Media Matters, are of the utmost importance in this battle for the minds of the electorate.

Keep up the good work!!!

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