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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
I left for a hour or so and I see when I come back the 'usual' group bloggers have turned the conversation into to nonsense and ranting that has nothing to so with the original subject.
Or write it for that matter. That is what google is for!
J'aime l'odeur de ma propre farts
No one here is writing about liking the smell of their own flatulence. And moreover, Google and other translation sites online, are often full of mistakes. If we have a commenter who only can write in language X, that's one thing. But otherwise I keep mine to English as all should (we are, after all, reading Glenn on American policy), and I do not post grafs that will make no sense to many without taking the effort to resort to one of those iffy online translators.
No one here is writing about liking the smell of their own flatulence.
I know! It's always Israel-torture-Israel, all the time.
Now, there is a blog, ( http://www.ratemypoo.com/ ) which deals with this on a purely visial level, the olfactory is unaccountably slighted.
Don't click that link, even if it is a top-20 blog. Just don't
It would seem that Bernbart, no less, has found our recent discussions less than enlightening. To which I could respond in many ways, come to think of it, none of them particularly civil, but several potentially worthy of a Pomtini spray... Jebbie, is there an award available for this performance?
Show us the way, bernbart.
Show us the way!
No one here is writing about liking the smell of their own flatulence.
Well maybe they should be. Nobody minds their own brand.
All writers have an obligation to keep themselves in check, on point, and brief, especially in what is, in essence, a debate format. Bombast and excessive length wear out after a while.
I actually agree wholeheartedly. But it's never going to happen at Salon Letters. You're talking about something more like a writers' circle: this is a tap room where everybody wears a mask and has a bullhorn.
Besides, troll-baiting (as stupid an activity as it is) is irresistable sometimes, even to one with Olympian levels of self-control such as I. There's always gonna be some newbie who tries to engage DaveElectroSatanRobotMengeleFromHell in Socratic dialogue, and we'll be off to the races again...
Bottom of the Letters to the Editor page, here, I'll save you the trouble:
If you are experiencing a problem with our Letters feature or wish to complain about a letter, please send us e-mail at lettersproblems@salon.com.
Bombast and excessive length wear out after a while.
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I couldn't agree more!
Alas! For some of us, it's all we've got!
Vaffanculo a Lei, la Sua moglie, e la Sua madre. Lei è un cafone stronzo... non mi importa un cazzo la Sua altezzosa opinione. Vada via in culo.
Distinti saluti,
From ThinkProgress.org yesterday or the day before -
Closing Gitmo will be among Obama’s first official actions.»The Associated Press reports that advisers to President-elect Obama “say one of his first duties in office will be to order the closing of the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay. That executive order is expected during Obama’s first week on the job — and possibly on his first day, according to two transition team advisers.” The order would fulfill one of Obama’s key campaign promises in an effort to, as Obama recently explained, “regain America’s moral stature in the world.” Obama raised doubts about his intentions yesterday when he suggested that the closure might not happen in his first 100 days.
The question isn't will he or won't he -- the question is when will it happen and at what further damamge to the rule of law. They leaked the information about the executive order to quiet the average "progressive" idiot. "See he is going to close it! He said so himself on the first day in office. Now I can goo back to watching American Idol."
Sure, he is going to keep his campaign promise to close the prison at Gitmo. Sure he'll proclaim it in an executive order his first day in office. So? He was always going to do that wasn't he? Aren't all of his recent comments designed to explain to us that the executive order proclamation is a promise of something to happen eventually? That is, after he can set up some other means of of holding them or using the "tainted" evidence he will begin the actual process of shutting it down.
I have not been following this closely (I gave up following things very closely) and have only read what Glenn and a few others have written about it but, based on my limited knowledge and what is coming out of his mouth, it seems obvious to me what he is doing. If you think about it for a second or two I think Obama has been pretty clear about what he is going to do. He isn't going to just shut it down and whatever happens, nothing much will change for at least 100 days. It seems to me that the executive order will be some type of "hey I said I would do this and I am but don't expect it anytime soon" statement. And in 100 days people won't be paying as much attention when he does something shitty like setting up his National Security Court of whatever the fuck that was. It seems to me he is just buying time.
Glenn's new tools notwithstanding, most all of the issues with excessive posting could be improved (I won't say solved) with more sophisticated technology. Thread based systems allow ranters to rant, poets to wax, and trolls to gnash, while allowing readers to easily and selectively ignore specific subjects and posters.
There is a downside to such systems. For better or worse, it's possible to lose the feeling of community. Single thread comment sections evolve and have a distinct flow that adds character. It's more likely one will miss good posts.
I would guess Salon has weighed this topic more than once and I for one, am ambivalent about making significant changes to the comment structure.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
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