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Monday, January 12, 2009 12:00 AM

Obama v. the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran

Last year, the NIE famously concluded with "high confidence" that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003. Why did Obama say yesterday that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons?

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Monday, January 12, 2009 02:38 PM

Oh!

I flubbed that!

Here we go again:

Sky rockets at night

Afternoon delight..

Does anybody know the rest of the song?

Monday, January 12, 2009 02:40 PM

@Bellatrix LeStrange

"National Intelligence" didn't do a real good job of predicting 9/11 either.

-- Bellatrix LeStrange

August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing

Bin Laden determined to strike in US

Monday, January 12, 2009 02:41 PM

The Roots of Jewish Supremacism

Flyers order 'hate group' out of Whistler

http://www.piquenewsmagazine.com/pique/index.php?cat=C_News&content=Hate+group+1602

"The flyers are adorned with the headline “HATE GROUP OUT OF WHISTLER NOW” and carry a quote from Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, the deceased leader of Chabad-Lubavitch, a Hasidic Jewish organization that began in the 18th century. Schneerson died in 1994.

Schneerson’s quote is from an article in the March 2000 issue of the Washington Report of Middle East Affairs. The quote, from a book review by Lincoln Review editor Allan Brownfeld, reads as follows:

“The difference between a Jewish and a non-Jewish person stems from the common expression: ‘Let us differentiate.’ Thus, we do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a superior level. Rather, we have case of ‘let us differentiate’ between totally different species. This is what needs to be said about the body: the body of a Jewish person is of a totally different quality from the body of (members) of all nations of the world… A non-Jew’s entire reality is only vanity. The entire creation (of a non-Jew) exists only for the sake of the Jews.” "

Monday, January 12, 2009 02:41 PM

First one to figure out if this is significant gets a star

I'm not referring to Gitmo, no change there. I'm talking about interrogation.

Advisers say Obama preparing to close Gitmo

By LARA JAKES, Associated Press Writer Lara Jakes, Associated Press Writer – 12 mins ago

WASHINGTON – President-elect Barack Obama is preparing to issue an executive order his first week in office — and perhaps his first day — to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, according to two presidential transition team advisers.

It's unlikely the detention facility at the Navy base in Cuba will be closed anytime soon. In an interview last weekend, Obama said it would be "a challenge" to close it even within the first 100 days of his administration.

But the order, which one adviser said could be issued as early as Jan. 20, would start the process of deciding what to do with the estimated 250 al-Qaida and Taliban suspects and potential witnesses who are being held there. Most have not been charged with a crime.

The Guantanamo directive would be one of a series of executive orders Obama is planning to issue shortly after he takes office next Tuesday, according to the two advisers. Also expected is an executive order about certain interrogation methods, but details were not immediately available Monday.

The advisers spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the orders that have not yet been finalized.

Obama transition team spokeswoman Brooke Anderson declined comment Monday.

The two advisers said the executive order will direct the new administration to look at each of the cases of the Guantanamo detainees to see whether they can be released or if they should still be held — and if so, where.

Many of the Guantanamo detainees are cleared for release, and others could be sent back to their native countries and held there. But many nations have resisted Bush administration efforts to repatriate the prisoners back home. Both Obama advisers said it's hoped that nations that had initially resisted taking detainees will be more willing to do so after dealing with the new administration.

What remains the thorniest issue for Obama, the advisers said, is what to do with the rest of the prisoners — including at least 15 so-called "high value detainees" considered among the most dangerous there.

Detainees held on U.S. soil would have certain legal rights that they were not entitled to while imprisoned in Cuba. It's also not clear if they would face trial through the current military tribunal system, or in federal civilian courts, or though a to-be-developed legal system that would mark a hybrid of the two.

Where to imprison the detainees also is a problem.

Obama promised during the presidential campaign to shut Guantanamo, endearing him to constitutional law experts, civil libertarians and other critics who called the Bush administration detentions a violation of international law.

But he acknowledged in an interview Sunday that the process of closing the prison would be harder and longer than initially thought.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090112/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_guantanamo

Monday, January 12, 2009 02:41 PM

Yeah maureen,

But who's the real Lugosi?

"I want to suck your oil.."

Now who does THAT sound like?

Monday, January 12, 2009 02:43 PM

Klytus

Ho! (;-)})

[I can't help it. I adore Kathy Mattea. She is a goddess.]

Monday, January 12, 2009 02:45 PM

tommy1733 is an idiot

So if I may rephrase, you are asking if I believe the US should act as World Policeman? I would need to attack that question on a case-by-case basis.

You can not have it both ways. Either you believe that America is charged with the care of the world by God; or you believe we are just a country of humans. Which will it be?

Only the utterly morally bankrupt would claim that the Americans have the right to invade foreign lands and kill men, women, and children because we do not like their ways.

What next? Would you invade a country and kill the children because the women's fashions do not suit you?

Monday, January 12, 2009 02:45 PM

tommy1733

(speaking governmentally here, you understand, not meaning to paint all Iranian citizens with the same brush).

If only Depleted Uranium was so discriminant.

So when Ahmadinejad spoke at Columbia University, you weren't one of the guys on the sidelines screaming "Iran kills Gays! Down with Iran!" and demonizing the entire country, but instead you were peacefully calling for people to make the distinction between the Iranian government and its citizens, right?

Call me unconvinced.

Monday, January 12, 2009 02:47 PM

heru-ur

Let them eat cake!

Monday, January 12, 2009 02:49 PM

Cake?

You mean Twinkies don't you?

Monday, January 12, 2009 02:51 PM

Let them eat cake! -- Chris Sinnard

I guess: but I am on yet another diet. Why could she not have said, "let them eat tomatoes!" ???

Monday, January 12, 2009 02:54 PM

heru-ur

You know how it goes...

It is A-OK for the United States to act as World Policeman and meddle in other countries' affairs, as long as it is policing what you perceive as "good", and so long as mission creep doesn't find its way back into your home. And that it is most definitely not OK for any other country to do the same thing under the same pretenses, because that other country might not perceive you as "good" and might not do things that you like.

Unable to escape the doom that seemed to belong only to others.

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