to add a liitle more to your list of foolish defences, I noted also that when asked about Gaza Mr Obama had a very closed "we can't have two foreign policies" answer ... all very well, but when asked about Iran he had quite a bit to say.

Hmmm ...

Look up.

You see that?

It's the point. You missed it.

Or let me guess... If Canada passed a law outlawing homosexuality you'd be in here arguing that the US needs to bomb Canada into oblivion whenever GG blogs about Canada? Where was tommy1733 when GG was blogging about Prop 8?

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Thanks for the links, I'll take a look at them.

And as far as over the top goes, I frequent infowars and even check out rense.com sometimes, so I don't think I'll be too shocked by any "over the topness" I find. :p

It's all the hand-wringing and speculating that I see in your posts and the discussions that follow that are annoying.

There's two ways for you to avoid all this terrible "annoyance."

One is for everyone - everyone - who is concerned about these issues to shut up.

The other is for you to find some other blogs to read.

I wonder how many cranks, that I could probably count on one hand, that this shrieking Sheikh has in his backyard, garage, entourage?

You are one live wire.

Why not spend some time constructing reasoned responses rather than childish retorts?

Sorry I missed out on GG's comments about Proposition 8. This fact has no relevance to my comments. Iran's continued government-level advocacy of torture and execution for people like me is. Makes me think that their society is not a good candidate for an equal partnership of the kind described by ondelette.

Iran was good enough for America under the Shah. Ervin prison was then, as it still is now, Iran's famous dungeon...

You're just mad that that ever since '79, Iran is no longer a U.S. toadie, towin' the big toad's line.

Why not answer my simple question?

Do you think that it is the role of the United States to protect the world's gay population from their own Governments? What gives the United States this right? Is it an exclusive right? Would the Russians be able to exercise this right if a state in the US, or another country, outlawed homosexuality?

If Canada were to outlaw homosexuality would you be attacking it with the same vitriol in which you attack Iran?

First, it was the consensus of the intelligence community also that Saddam had WMD. Why does Glenn Greenwald suddenly put so much faith in them now? Oh, because it suits his political purposes.

Second, Iran is openly boasting about their increased nuclear activity, including hundreds of new centrifuges that serve only one purpose: to produce weapons-grade nuclear fuel.

Greenwald's head is in the sand, and as always he's highly selective in his outrage and highly selective in what "facts" he chooses to use.

Why Salon continues to publish him his a mystery. He's an embarrassment.

which Iran is this "equal" society you are talking about? I think your view is naive because it ignores many facts. And it is true that the Iranians have murdered a large number of gays. Please research this if you are in doubt.

Also, your opening salvo of insults was unnecessary and actually not very impressive. I would rather you do it the hard way and just focus on the issues. There is no point in this kind of writing - it just spreads bad feelings around. why do you want to do this?

I know it's not an equal society, I know they put to death a whole range of people they shouldn't. But it doesn't make much sense to only hang out with your friends. Real change comes when you sit down with your enemies and try to change the script. I suggest you research what I had talked about, namely, just how long Western society has been demonizing Persians. It's useful because it gives you a feeling for how much of what you "know" might not be, as Mr. Nimzicki says in Independence Day, "entirely accurate". Or did you think that real negotiations were presaged by a list of particulars only from our side and none from the other side?

As for my opening salvo, I was commenting on how hurt I was that you called me naive. I would rather you did some real research into each and every one of our sworn enemies and found out that most of those countries are inhabited by members of the human race. Many have demands we could meet just by holding to our own values about all men being created equal. Yes, they hang gays. We torture Muslims. Before you go all superior, whereabouts is Alan Turing when you need him?

First you sit and bargain, then you demand change. We're doing it the other way now, how's it working out? Saved any Persian gays with the sanctions and saber rattling and talk of bombing Natanz? Or did you keep the gay-killers in power?

That's not really true. Can you clarify your point?

Lucy McCain would have held the football and then stomped warrior-like on your face when you fell on your ass, then he would have held the football for you again. Lucy Obama will hold the football, and when you fall on your ass, he'll says he's sorry and then hold the football again.

Americans are pretty damn stupid for sure, but even if they weren't, the two-party system has them hog-tied and helpless.

Let's see now. Iran gave Hesbollah 13,000 missiles to shoot blindly and indiscriminantly into Israel population centers.

And again, leading up to Israel's so-called "aggression" on Gaza, Hamas shot 5,000 Iranian-made or -designed missiles indiscrimantly into Israel.

Do you honestly think that Iran does not want to become a nuclear power? You can be certain that Iran wants to become a nuclear power, and once they do, the first thing that they will do will be to nuke-out Israel.

The suicide-bombing mentality of the Islamofascist is particularly terrifying to world survival. At least during the years of the cold war the US and USSR never used nukes because of "mutually assured destruction".

But what concern is "mutually assured destruction" to some brain-dead suicide bomber? With the 6 million Jews of Israel surrounded by 200 million Moslems, the Islamofascists might not even care that a few million Moslems were "martyred" in order to exterminate the "infidels" of Israel.

These horrible "imperialist" Jews, who have been living in Israel for only 4,000 years.

And don't think that it would end with Israel. Remember 9/11. With the Jewish scapegoats in Israel all dead, the Islamofascists would have to scrapegoat the USA, and a nuclear 9/11 would be next.

Wait & see. If the lefties take over national security, we're all going to need lead underwear.