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Obama v. the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran

Last year, the NIE famously concluded with "high confidence" that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003. Why did Obama say yesterday that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons?

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  • Monday, January 12, 2009 01:46 PM

    ondellete

    Personally, I think it's an abstract argument. There is a lot of pre-torture evidence on KSM.

    Oh, I agree. I never claimed it to be anything but abstract. From what I understand about KSM, I think he'd probably get convicted in regular court even with the tainted evidence suppressed.

    But I'm not 100% sure, and I don't know about other cases where really bad guys might walk.

    And, for the record, I'm not just freaking out about this now that Obama is about to get sworn in - I've been agitated about this since TortureGate: Day 1.

    But anyway, I respect your opinion and appreciate the thoughful and substantive debate. Cheers.

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