Your anti-semitic rants have reached a new low.

I asked the question of different people because I thought the response might indicate something of their nature.

Zoltan:

I would much rather face you in a ring than try to rationally respond to your naked hatred with any words I can muster.

I think you've proven my point.

"As far as the body count goes, who cares? 100:1, 1000:1, 10,000:1 it doesn't matter." -- markandkari

That would depend upon whether those were Palestinian or Israeli bodies, no?

"It goes on and on. The Palestinian refugees have been played and used by the people who are supposed to look out for their interests." -- markandkari

Um, yes. Under international law, an occupying power is responsible for the welfare of the people in the area they are occupying. Why do you think Israel has not obeyed international law concerning the Palestinians in Gaza?

so, what you said to Derbig was in essense:

Derbig's cowardice only emboldens Islamist terrorism against India in their claim to Kashmir.

Does that really make sense?

Check out this segment from 1600 Penn Ave:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28584453#28584453

Schuster has an Israel defender debating a Palestine supporter. At 5:54 Schuster interjects this:

"Here's my issue. Why the double standard for Israel, as opposed to all the other countries in the world..."

I hoped Schuster was about to point out the abnormal fealty America pledges to the security of Israel, seemingly above (or at least on par with) it's own security. Sadly, no. Schuster concludes:

"Why is it that Israel always gets blasted in the press, around the world, they're always focused, why Israel?"

It figures. The double standard that Schuster decries is the way everyone picks on Israel "as opposed to all the other countries around the world." Still, the entire segment is worth watching if only for the novelty of seeing a Palestine supporter on a national news program.

Yeah, baby.

You keep asking me to "prove" anti-Semitism, and then crow and beat your chest like you've scored a touchdown or something when I don't cite specifics to your standards. I'll try one last time, although it's pretty obvious you're not interested in dialogue, just shouting, proclaiming yourself the "Winner" and then running home before mommy gets upset.

Anti-semitism, like any form of racism or bigotry, can always be argued. Archie Bunker didn't think he was racist. Bill O'Reilly doesn't think he's racist. The very definition of the bigot is they can't see that their predetermined biases lead them to the argument they believe they've reached organically and based on the facts.

I've explained basic definitions of anti-Semitism in the vain hopes that you can apply those standards and see the numerous examples these threads are littered with.

But the one time I cited two specific posters in a previous thread, their screaming and shouting about the "Zionist conspiracy to silence them" was so pathetic, there was no point in continuing.

If there's any point in discussing anti-Semitism, I can only hope to open the door and that you'll see it on your own. I can show you links to the historical record of these narratives, and links to current ugly examples of these narritives reimagined as "political critique."

To get into a tit-for-tat with some of the ranters on this board is pointless, but the language here veers into the ugliest and basest of the age-old smears. Just like the racist didn't know that noting that "Negros like watermelon" is "true" because he saw three black people eating watermelon once. Ignorance of historical bigotry is not an excuse.

To understand anti-Semitism you have to go back and read the great anti-Semitic smears of history.

No, you don't. That's bullshit. To understand anti-semitism, you only have to understand the general definition of prejudice, racism, religious-hatred, and any other form of bigotry.

Anti-semitism is taking a negative description (possibly earned by a single or several individuals) and applying it across all Jews - the entire group. Racism is taking a similar negative description and applying it across all of a given race. That's all it is.

If Jews were accused at some point in history of being dual-loyalists, the anti-semitism that resulted was about taking that charge and expanding it over ALL Jews, such that they were all discriminated against, and considered treasonous.

That doesn't mean that if there is an individual who happens to be Jewish, and who actually is treasonous that we can't call them as such, because if we had done our historical research, as you suggest, we'd know that this is an automatic "canard" - that Jews were falsely accused of this once way back in history, and therefore, the individual CAN'T be treasonous, so the one saying it must be an anti-semite.

Would you agree that Jonathan Pollard was a traitor? He was convicted of spying on the US for Israel. How about Larry Franklin (who worked in Douglas Feith's office and gave top secret intelligence to AIPAC so they could pass it along to Israel - he's also serving a prison term)? Is it fair to call these two individuals dual-agents?

Anyone who considers each person a unique individual with a free will will agree that ANYONE of ANY religion, ethnicity, race, etc. can be a dual-agent, a spy, a tribalist, or whatever. Individuals are judged on their behavior in society, and should be held individually accountable for their behavior. They do NOT represent any other person in their race, religion, etc. - they represent themselves.

And as such, there's a very fanatical tribalist group, called Zionists, who are NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF JEWS NOR SEMITES, and this band of ideologues puts Israel first, and resorts to all sorts of propaganda on behalf of this foreign country.

You are actually using "historic canards" as a blanket amnesty for all future INDIVIDUALS who may, just so happen to be Jewish. You're not fooling anyone here with your rhetorical tactics. If someone is lying, deceiving, spreading propaganda for ideological purposes that person may be Irish (Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly), or Jewish (Alan Dershowitz, WinSmith), or of any religion or race. Jews don't get a free pass. Sorry.