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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
I've cited and cited.
Bullshit. Bull-fucking-shit. I have been following you and I have yet to see one permalink.
You want to level serious accusations like that, it's the least you can do to back them up. The absolute least.
You don't care about being taken seriously, that's fine. I don't think you would expect any less if someone were accusing you of something serious. Your response would be: "show me where I said that." Right?
I just went through an entire week of your posts, back until Monday, the last five pages of your archive. Only one citation, this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/2680908/Barack-Obama-would-consider-criminal-charges-against-Bush-administration-over-Guantanamo-Bay.html
But it has nothing to do with the topic we're discussing here. I won't call you a liar; there are plenty of explanations, but everyone recognizes that psychotics who don't take their medication are being irresponsible.
How you can argue equivalence of a blockade (whoever started the hostilities) to terrorism is beyond me. As I pointed out, Hamas had $100 million in gift revenue and would have had far more had it not chosen to engage Israel in war for its own political purposes. There was money to feed and house the Gazan population---it went instead to offensive weapons.However, we need to find a solution. I believe it lies somewhere near Taba. America under Obama, hopefully, will restrain Israel's worst tendencies and convince those in Hamas to put away the death rhetoric in favor of life. That will require both carrot and stick. I am always hopeful, not that there is a great track record to be hopeful.
-- PalestraJon
Both terrorism and blockades are Acts of War. That's the comparison which you don't seem to comprehend.
How do you think any government of a state under seige, which is what a blockade is, can be expected to provide normal services when it is unable, due to the seige, to acquire basic necessities such as chlorine for the purification of drinking water or even food and medical supplies?
Israel has engaged in Acts of War and Hamas has engaged in Acts of War. Both have committed grave and criminal acts under International law.
Why do you believe Israel alone should be forgiven for these violations of law?
Good luck reasoning with the rabid Israel haters in here. So far I've explained how I support a two-state solution, supported offering the land deals in the 90s that was met with Arafat's Second Intifada, believe Israel can and does deserve criticism for when it violates the rules of engagement (as it is currently doing), and believe the Palestinian people deserve a homeland.
Of course, I'm a pro-Israel John Bolton-like zealot, or something. Because I believe Israel has a fundamental right to defend itself, because I believe Hamas is one of the vilest terrorist thug groups in the world, and because I believe the Second Intifada means Israel has a lot of leeway in choosing to make its country functional and its citizens feel protected.
I also believe anti-Semites use Israel's action to justify long-held and deeply rooted unhinged conspiracy theories about "Jewish power" that go back centuries. I'm cwazy!
As a librarian and researcher, I am constantly amazed at how human beings ignore the past and stumble into historical black holes, human made of course, while all the time ignoring the facts that constructed the hole in the first place.
Lest we forget and if memory serves, the Israelites, way back when, destroyed a civilization already occupying the "promised land." Well now, why did they do that? They did it because "God" told them to do it. Actually, circumstances point to the fact that the Israelites needed a place to stay and that particular area of the Middle East looked good. Besides, hunger hath no fury like an empty stomach. As we have done countless times since the beginning, we offed a civilization in the name of whatever God we'd conceived and, in so doing, stumbled into a black hole that we've been falling into from time immemorial.
I have to believe that among some of the wanderers there were a few critical thinkers who questioned the common sense, not to mention, the validity of waging a pre-emptive war on a people who hadn't harmed them. Obviously, this point, if it were broached, had no sway with the wandering multitude, they went ahead and did the dirty deed anyway. God, and I use the term loosely, there are so many parallels to this scenario.
So, what point am I trying to make here, that we're uncivilized, adolescent, need an excuse to fill our bellies with other people's food, even if it's dishonest, that we still haven't learned to think critically and sanely before acting? AHAH! All the above.
Until we learn to be honest, rational, and reasonable. Until we stop looking for excuses; God or Gods come to mind, that black hole will get wider and wider until it swallows us all.
If Winsmith didn't care about being taken seriously, he wouldn't have included the word 'heterogenious' in his last post to Glenn.
http://letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/01/08/israel/permalink/93fe52e96105cfd1ea2c373f60723be2.html
your a f-ing moron.
--WinSmith, Friday, January 9, 2009 12:00 PM
Something something about being taken seriously. How does it go again, WinSmith? Oh yeah, that's right...
http://letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/01/06/hewitt/permalink/f2295e4d4e91c87ce89ac1549baaa335.html
It's hard to take anything you say seriously when you can't even spell Holocaust and anti-Semitism correctly.
Here's your first clue. "Semetism" and "Holacaust" are both incorrect.
--WinSmith, Tuesday, January 6, 2009 11:57 AM
I'm cwazy!-- WinSmith
You're also a fucking liar.
of implied "I don't think you're part of MY tribe after all" mentality:
And, so it might go with Glennnnnnnnnn. I don't think he's willing to reveal very much about his roots as a Jew. For all I know, his Mum may have been Christine Owens before she met his Dad, Irving Herschel Greenwald. Maybe Christine insisted that little Glennnnn go to Sunday School at The Church Of The Immaculate Conception and do the rosary every morning. I don't know. Do you?
According to this "logic", Glenn (and I believe there are only two nns there) isn't really Jewish at all because--zounds!--his Mom might be Euro-American! Worse, Catholic! So let's invoke Halacha and thereby eliminate any possibility that there might be a scintilla--a scintilla, mind you--of truth to his argument.
Therefore, as 1+1=2, so potentially non-Jewish mother=you've-got no-right-to-comment-on-matters-Israeli.
(Lotus, I passed quantitative logic, unlike you)
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