Glenn:

There's a really great interview with some pompous neocon interrogator from -- I think -- Canada that [Noam Chomsky] just tore to shreds.

This has to be it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10rTPSSmOFw&feature=related

I'm watching the young lad get worked over now.

FWIW, I also have long thought of the salient parallel between Amerika's Indian Wars and the treatment of the Palestinians. And also to some extent in Amerika's own military frolics in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Which in turn share common characteristics with other imperialist colonial wars and military actions. The White Man's Burden; the superior civilized Raj subduing the inferior barbarian Wog.

The God-fearing, decent, upright settler vs. the pagan, devolved hostile.

It's just so adorable that Israel has a Manifest Destiny just like its BFF Amerika!

In fact, if you study the history of that period you will see accounts of Native Americans forced onto reservations, and then having needed resources put out of their reach, shippings of food and aid owed them by treaty prevented from reaching them, etc. And then when the people on the reservation would lash out in some in response to their intolerable situation, they would be deemed "savages" and an incredibly harsh response would be meeted out (what we might call a non-proportional response).

Why the same blindness, over and over. A Chinese professor once told me (regarding my Free Tibet acivism): we are simply doing to them what you did to your indigenous peoples. And I replied to him: Yes, but 100 years later intelligent people look back and are bitterly, bitterly ashamed (and even then, some few spoke out). And how does the fact that my country committed an injustice, which I admit and hate and deplore, have to do with someone somewhere else committing one? To reply to my charge that you are acting unjustly with the reply that some people in my country did the same kind of thing (and is now doing some similar things in Irag)is clearly irrelevant.

Jeez, even I understood what my Mom meant when I was a kid and was caught breaking a rule and said, well, Tommy did it too! Two wrongs don't make a right, she would say. Those trite sayings are so embarrasingly true.

"how would you react if Canada and Mexico started sending comedians, actors and illegal immigrants into the US?

"FTFY"

WE WOULD LEVEL BOTH COUNTRIES TO A BURNED OUT PILE OF RUBBLE AND DANCE ON THE BONES OF OUR FOES CRUSHING THEM TO DUST WHILE SCREAMING HALLELUJAH AND USA USA USA!

WHAT THE HELL ARE CANADIANS AND MEXICANS DOING ON OUR LAND ANYWAY?

MANIFEST DESTINY!!!

54 40 or what? HELL NO, WE WANT THE WHOLE DAMN THING.

Those Canadians and Mexicans have ALWAYS hated US. Mexicans have already announced plans to retake the Southwest, including HOLLYWOOD!!!

TO ARMS! TO ARMS!

WE ARE SURROUNDED BY ENEMIES ON ALL SIDES WHO HATE US AND WISH OR DESTRUCTION!

/head asplodes

I will stand with you, my friend, against all rocket attacks from those American Hating Canadians and Mexicans. WE gotta stick together, pal.

Are none in congress or the senate speaking up? Even in the congressional records of the times of the "indian wars" we have records of politicians speaking out against what was happening. Are there none who speak out now at all? none?

In part II of the interview I linked to above, Chomsky discusses the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and occupation. When they mention "Barak," they mean Ehud Barak, the former Israeli prime minister, not Barack Obama (in case anyone is initially confused).

Part II:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bieFwutoqvA&feature=related

"There has never been a Palestine, nor any sort of Palestinian homeland, "

Then how is it that you use the word, if it does not exist and did not exist. Is it a variant of Philistine and if they never existed then what of the Bible/Torah? What of Canaan and the Canaanites? Did they not exist? Why did the Romans give it a name if it did not exist? Why did the British use the word Palestine if it didn't exist? Why did Zionist settlers use the term to name the land and why did they even use the word in the name of one of their Newspapers?

Don't bother trying to answer, I am no sadist.

I want America to be incinerated. America is evil. This is Greenwald 101 dogma.

Your gift for recapitulation and analysis simply cannot be overestimated. But, please, stop drooling when writing. It gets all over my keyboard and gums up the works.

For everyone slamming Israel.........

how would you react if Canada and Mexico started firing rockets into the US?

omooex

Why do you wish me to be hit by a rocket? is it because you cant answer a really straight forward question? -- Vacca

As Glenn stated, your hypothetical is not worth the bytes it's written in, because we have not occupied Canada for the past 40 years, and have not declared that "Canadians" do not exist because they collectively fail to meet our arbitrary standards for tribal status.

But despite those facts, any U.S. action in defense of U.S. interests is inherently more legitimate than Israel's present misuse of our funds and materiel. They are pursuing their perceived interests at the expense of ours, on our dime.

There are vocal, well-funded minorities in the U.S. who support them in this. 1) Fundamentalist Christians whose "beliefs" about the end of the world somehow allow them to act against the highest commandment, given to us by Jesus. 2) Extremist Jewish partisans who engage in even more contorted sophistry in order to ignore the Commandment against murder. (Usually by claiming "self-defense" in a situation where it does not legitimately apply.)
These minorities are acting against the interests of the majority of Americans. It's my experience that they (more often than not) harbor deep contempt for that majority. In the case of extremist supporters of Israel among Jews, the contempt is often directed at other Jews who don't toe the line. Among extremist Dominionists, it is generally directed at the majority at large who aren't "true Christians". Both types of extremists are effectively anti-American. They should always be identified as such but, more importantly, they should be identified as traitors against God. Because that is what they are. Despite all their shrill Pharisee contortions to the contrary.

Israel is using heavy military force right now in Gaza because it suits the internal political needs of the ruling party, and because they know time is running out for unrestrained action given the coming regime change in Washington.

Glenn: money, carefully applied over a period of years, is the only thing that will effect the change in Congress that is needed. They will not act in accordance with the desires of the majority of Americans until we buy them.

Readers: most of you can afford to spend more on this --- if it matters enough to read about and post about.