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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Shorter LondonLad...Bollox...
Funny you should bring him up in this context.
He was asked, during the campaign, what he would do for Israel. He responded "nothing". But he went on to say that he would not send aid and money to Israel's enemies either. He would follow the non-interventionist policy in that conflict also.
As a coincidence, the smears and slanders seemed to start shortly thereafter.
Rockwell says in his blog:
Glenn Greenwald Is a Gentleman
And so is Hugh Hewitt. At a time when the debate on the reich-wing is typified by hate-filled DC regimists (and the left is terrible too), this is good to hear, especially on an issue like Gaza. Read Glenn on his interview with HH. You can listen to it or read a transcript too.
The links to GG are striped out by the cut and paste action due to Salon's limitations, but there was a link to here to read Glenn's post.
Damn, Glenn is everywhere these days! And that is good news.
@mr snoid
if I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times, it's Gwenn, not Gwen!
Stop that. Beer hurts when it comes out my nose.
@Derbig Mooser
Thanks for the posts over the last couple days. The best thing about laughter is that we drop our guard and become very susceptible to ideas. Sometimes I think the same brain cells that control comedy are the same brain cell that control dogma--just flipped in a different direction.
This would explain a lot actually.
I have a kind of gruesome question.
Do the the toll figures that we're seeing in the press
include those killed in the bombing that
preceded the ground invasion of gaza?
I believe that almost 400 people we're killed by the bombing. Is the death toll, therefore, over 1000
in all?
As the result of reading the comment by "g-s", early in the comments, I took it upon myself to do a "web search" using the search terms "panetta + jew."
(Insomnia...too much cardamom tea.)
[ click sieg for link! especially result one! ]
No dice. Panetta's family are recent immigrants to the US, from Calabria, Italy. And a search of terms "calabria + jews" shows that, while there was once a Jewish community in that region of Italy, they were expelled in 1511.
I have yet to do a search of "paulson + jew", LOL. Honestly, I think someone else is going to have to tackle that one.
From now on.... sad....
I'll forward all deletes,
to Salon's editors. Sad.
Glenn wrote "I think that there are always going to be fanatics on both sides, the Israeli side and the Palestinian side, including Hamas, who are basically irrevocable hate-mongers and extremists, and they will never change. But I think that there are portions of Hamas, and they’ve been working on doing things like providing social services to Palestinians and being a political and a civilian arm of Palestinians, much the way that the IRA sort of split into a military and political arm."
Hamas are irrevocable hate-mongers? They have made the invisible man demand of Israel, "we won't recognize you, till you recognize us." Isn't this essential? Do Israelis recognize Palestine? Palestinians? Arab people's rights to ANY of the land?
I don't think you can charge Hamas with being irrevocable hate-mongers, when Israel, Israelis, Hugh Hewitt and many Americans don't really consider Arabs, Muslims as equal humans.
I got a kick out asking the Palestinian Christian leader of the Sabeel Center if he felt abandoned by his Christian brethren here? He most warmly agreed.
Before asking the question I remarked at his accent and said, "You don't sound white?" I'm certain the host was floored, fortunately, he was tickled.
I love you Glenn, but much of what you concede when you rush do denounce Hamas. They are democratically elected, apparently have been earnest in their service, if misdirected.
I don't know if MLK's could work without the background violence and threats. I think the Dec. of Ind. is a forcasting tool--if you bring tyranny you will be thrown off eventually; it is your duty to do so. Individually we each should choose non-violence. But who couldn't excuse the Slave-man from striking down his master? Surely, he'll be boiled alive, but these spasms of defiance are inevitable.
I appreciate your articles, and you are free to feel that way. However, I don't believe the jury is out on whether Hamas are "irrevocable hate-mongers." You concede too much here, of course we all must hold to this last bit of orthodoxy in the American Press.
I see the intense appeals to your heritage here. I appreciate your honesty about that tribal sympathy. I'm Irish by heritage; consequently I do "see" how being occupied would piss you off (IRA) as adolescents fantasize about myths. Cowboys and indians. I'm a Texan. You know the Alamo and Waco probably had identical facts just different narratives.
I'd likely visit the "Wog" more if it were not for the autoplay music. It's a bit of a dead giveaway that what I'm doing is not work that will enhance shareholder value.
Anyway you could put that in a "player" frame that could be turned off and on?
Thanks.
John Ging, UN-RWA's director, has called for an independent investigation into the strike, which came a day after an airstrike killed three men at a second U.N. school in Gaza City.
He said all U.N. buildings in Gaza were "clearly marked" with U.N. flags, and UNRWA had given the global-positioning coordinates of all its schools to Israeli authorities, Ging said.
The UN was particularly incensed over targeting of the schools, because Israeli forces knew they were packed with families as they had ordered them to get out of their homes with leaflet drops and loudspeakers. It said it had identified the schools as refugee centres to the Israeli military and provided GPS coordinates.
wrt: Blame Game
That's one of the more disquieting things I've read recently...and there's been a lot of competition for that appellation.
Where is this all headed?
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
219 Democrats and one Republican join in favor of the legislation, which passed by a narrow margin
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
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