Otherwise, this withering tit-for-tat violence will never end.

-- Lab2112

So then you think that if your daughters were killed as they were sleeping or on their way to school you'd understand and forgive. Also known as "this tit-for-tat violence will never end". What's it's like being blind while one has eyes, asshole?

What Derbig Mooser said at 8:53, page 13, this thread.

http://letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/01/06/hewitt/permalink/543ea5b47a9f930f1d8619a1ef9e1376.html

Some of us recognize mensch when we see it. You ain't it. Your gender-laced taunts disqualify you.

You'll have to try harder to be offensive. These well-worn tropes have been so over-used they're almost laughable now, especially when thrown into your kitchen sink approach. Try all you want, you have a lot of clutter to fight against here; you are only one of many stupid trolls, each screaming to be noticed by someone, anyone.

By the way, Allah u Akbar is used by all muslims, and even Arabic speaking non-muslims, such as Christians. Allah is simply the Arabic word for God.

I am watching the Rachel Maddow show and am thinking that you must get some kind of vicarious enjoyment when you watch it.

Tonight she was discussing Feinstein's role in providing no oversight relative to Bush policies and that she supported all of his nominations, etc.

After Rachel did that she notified the viewing audience that she had invited Feinstein to appear on the show tonight but the invitation was declined. Possibly because the Senator didn't want to deal with those questions.

She is making a huge issue over the fact that the Blair House was not even booked (per Margaret Carlson) when the White House declined Obama's request. Since then they booked John Howard, formerly of Australia.

I just love it. She is really a gutsy, smart person.

There is so much shallow propaganda invested in distorting the dialogue in the Palestinian-Israeli Land/Territory Dispute that i thought i would include a link to a map for consideration.

Jewish & Palestinian land (1945-2000)

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/media/landloss.gif

From a cursory glance at the history of the region (c1948), the UN, the US and Britain are all LARGELY responsible for instituting the attempted partition of the region. i believe that they must all show extraordinary effort to bring this conflict to some meaningful long-term settlement (of course, it will have to be sometime after the Bush criminals flee the scene of their innumerable crimes in TWO WEEKS!)

The reasoning in this WSJ article is almost beyond belief, but we see/hear it over and over.

What Congress Knew About 'Torture'

WSJ, REVIEW & OUTLOOK, JANUARY 6, 2009 (see sig)

Barack Obama's choice of former Congressman Leon Panetta to lead the CIA at least puts a grownup, if also an intelligence rookie, in that crucial job. It also means that Mr. Panetta and Director of National Intelligence-designate Dennis Blair will soon have to decide if they want to join the left-wing crusade to purge their agencies of anyone who had anything to do with "torture."

In particular, at their nomination hearings they're likely to be asked to support a "truth commission" on the Bush Administration's terrorist interrogation policies. We hope they have the good sense to resist. And if they need any reason to push back, they could start by noting the Members of Congress who would be on the witness list to raise their right hands.

Beginning in 2002, Nancy Pelosi and other key Democrats (as well as Republicans) on the House and Senate Intelligence Committees were thoroughly, and repeatedly, briefed on the CIA's covert antiterror interrogation programs. They did nothing to stop such activities, when they weren't fully sanctioning them. If they now decide the tactics they heard about then amount to abuse, then by their own logic they themselves are complicit. Let's review the history the political class would prefer to forget.

According to our sources and media reports we've corroborated, the classified briefings began in the spring of 2002 and dealt with the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, a high-value al Qaeda operative captured in Pakistan. In succeeding months and years, more than 30 Congressional sessions were specifically devoted to the interrogation program and its methods, including waterboarding and other aggressive techniques designed to squeeze intelligence out of hardened detainees like Zubaydah.

The briefings were first available to the Chairmen and ranking Members of the Intelligence Committees. From 2003 through 2006, that gang of four included Democrats Bob Graham and John D. Rockefeller in the Senate and Jane Harman in the House, as well as Republicans Porter Goss, Peter Hoekstra, Richard Shelby and Pat Roberts. Senior staffers were sometimes present. After September 2006, when President Bush publicly acknowledged the program, the interrogation briefings were opened to the full committees.

If Congress wanted to kill this program, all it had to do was withhold funding. And if Democrats thought it was illegal or really found the CIA's activities so heinous, one of them could have made a whistle-blowing floor statement under the protection of the Constitution's speech and debate clause. They'd have broken their secrecy oaths and jeopardized national security, sure. But if they believed that Bush policies were truly criminal, didn't they have a moral obligation to do so? In any case, the inevitable media rapture over their anti-Bush defiance would have more than compensated.

[…]

The real -- the only -- point of this "truth" exercise is to smear Bush Administration officials and coax foreign prosecutors into indicting them if Mr. Obama's Justice Department refuses. The House and Senate Intelligence Committees already possess the relevant facts, and Senator Carl Levin and his staff have spent two-and-a-half years looking at mountains of documents -- with nothing to show for it.

If Mr. Panetta doesn't want to go down as another Frank Church or (Carter-era CIA Director) Stansfield Turner, he'll tell his fellow Democrats to drop their "torture" vendetta against intelligence officials who were acting in good faith and with the full knowledge of key Members of Congress.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123120464870255997.html

I doubt it. You'll be dead in a year or two.