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Tuesday, January 6, 2009 12:00 AM

Discussing Israel/Gaza on right-wing talk radio

I had an unexpectedly substantive discussion of the Middle East and the "Islamic threat" on "The Hugh Hewitt Show" last night.

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Tuesday, January 6, 2009 06:21 AM

gustafus

Americans are held hostage to this sliver of ethnicity which may not be named. Until Americans understand that names like Panetta are NOT Italian - and that Paulson is NOT a Norwegian Christian Scientist.. but a Jew - we are prisoners of this cabal.

Yeah - and we need to unmask the real origins of names like Bush, Cheney, Obama, Biden, Geithner, Gates, and Clinton. The cabal is everywhere.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 06:22 AM

@ Glenn

To wit: The disgusting rant from Gustafus above. This is what is unleashed and fertilized when grand conspiracy theories of hidden Jewish power are unleashed.

Dog Whistle Politics exists on both the left and the right. Just as BushCo claims they "never explicitly said Saddam was behind 9/11," the left can and does fall into similar traps that open the door for age-old demonization and hatred.

We're better than that (or at least I hope we are). This is why people on the left choose their words carefully, parsing distinctions between legit criticism of Israel and weasel words that cover for the typical "Protocols of Zion" cabal narratives.

And yes, Protocols was forged in Russia years before Israel ever existed. These narratives live on like viruses, and need only a match to explode into the collective unconscious once again. Many on the left don't even know why they're so convinced it's actually Jewish intellectuals and not the morons Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield and Rice, and the usual gang of right-wing tough talking chickenhawk senators like Trent Lott, Tom Delay, Dick Army etc., that led to our invasion of Iraq.

Here's a hint, people: "Jews" are not behind our invasion of Iraq. Stupidity is.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 06:25 AM

WinSmith

This is what is unleashed and fertilized when grand conspiracy theories of hidden Jewish power are unleashed.

Right. If I'm responsible for Gustaf, then you're responsible for Baruch Goldstein, Yigal Amir and the violent and expanding West Bank settlers.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 06:32 AM

Taking the Healing DIrectly to the Hurting

Bravo, brother! I salute your courage. I admire how you take the healing directly to the hurting.

Scott Horton noted a similar failing.

...the Office of Legal Counsel, which has become controversial because of its legal defense of practices bordering on torture....

Got that? John Yoo and Steven Bradbury were defending practices “bordering on torture.” We’re talking about waterboarding, hypothermia, long-time standing, the use of psychotropic drugs and burying people in a box for prolonged periods, among other things.

Dear Times editors: read your own pages. When Russia used the practice of stoika in the Stalin era, you called it “torture.” It is. Why does it become “bordering on torture” when the Bush Administration uses it? When the Nazis used the practice of Pfahlbinden during World War II, you called it “torture.” So when Bush uses it, suddenly it becomes “bordering on torture”? By consciously softening your language, you are allowing those who introduced torture to escape the opprobrium that is their due. Moreover, you are enabling torture. Your readers deserve better. http://harpers.org/archive/2009/01/hbc-90004135

As "Matthew Alexander" demonstrated, we're using fear and control, in keeping with our mechanical conception of being in the world, to manufacture consent; whereas it is more truly human--and effective--to empathize and persuade based on mutual respect.

I've been reverse engineering our methods of controlling public opinion with fear for years now. We're using the power of myth as the engine of weapons-grade propaganda. We're treating the human psyche as a god-forsaken machine, susceptible to malicious hacking. How do we do it?

I call it myth-jacking. A myth isn't a lie, it's a metaphor, a vessel for going from ignorance to understanding. Like any other conveyancea, myths can be hijacked in order to deliver a people not into the Promised Land, but into the hands of their butchers.

Think-tanks have assumed the role of myth-makers. Their bombardiers then disperse to drop their bullshit bombs on unsuspecting target audiences.

We are gettnig jacked to hell, and stuck with the bill, by think-tank bombardiers.

[T]hink tanks... monitor and adjust governance norms and networks by using research, analysis, and advocacy to structure discourse about social problems and solutions among multiple elites and in the popular imagination. http://etd.library.pitt.edu/ETD/available/etd-08192005-162045/

We worship at the altar of force, mechanical power, applied from the outside, to force stupid stuff into the order we desire.

ALAN WATTS: It’s very inconvenient to have the kind of god, who is this authoritarian boss of the world, prying down over your shoulder all the time, knowing your inmost thoughts, and judging you. It’s a very uncomfortable feeling, and everybody’s happy to be rid of it. It has never significantly improved anybody’s behavior. In the so-called Ages of Faith, people were just as immoral if not more so than they are today. Because you see, all this fixed notion of god is idolatry! If thou shalt not make to thyself any graven image of anything that is in the heaven above etc., the most dangerous and pernicious images are not of wood or stone, nobody takes those seriously, they’re the images made of imagination and conception and thought. [End Watts; Relevance of Oriental Philosphy, podcast downloaded December, 2007 from http://www.alanwatts.com]

HOWARD ZINN: Here are some of the elements of the mindset that stand in the way, in the way for Obama, in the way for the Democratic Party, in the way for many Americans, in the way for us. One of the elements in our mindset is the idea, somehow, that the United States is exceptional. In the world of social science, in, you know, that discipline called social science, there’s actually a phrase for it. It’s called American exceptionalism. And what it means is the idea that the United States is unique in the world, you know, that we are different, that we--not just different, we’re better. Right? We are better than other people. You know, our society is better than other societies. This is a very dangerous thing to think.

[...]

So, yeah, and I began to realize certain things, that war corrupts everybody, corrupts everybody who engages in it. You start off, they’re the bad guys. You make an interesting psychological jump. The jump is this: since they’re the bad guys, you must be the good guys. No, they may very well be the bad guys. They may be fascists and dictators and bad, really bad guys. That doesn’t mean you’re good, you know? And when I began to look at it that way, I realized that wars are fought by evils on both sides. You know, one is a little more evil than the other. But even though you start in a war with sort of good intentions--we’re going to defeat fascism, we’re going to do this--you end up being corrupted, you end up being violent, you end up killing a lot of innocent people, because you’ve decided from the beginning that you’re right, and then you don’t have to ask questions anymore. That’s an interesting psychological thing that you--trick that you play. Well, you start out--you make a decision at the very beginning. The decision is: they’re wrong, I’m right. Once you have made that decision, you don’t have to think anymore. Then anything you do goes. Anything you do is OK, because you made the decision early on that they’re bad, you’re good. Then you can kill several hundred thousand people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Then you can kill 100,000 people in Dresden. It doesn’t matter. You’re not thinking about it. Yeah, war corrupts everybody who engages in it. http://i3.democracynow.org/2009/1/2/placeholder_howard_zinn

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