You seem to be hung up on the dancing part for some reason, as if dancing makes it killing civilians worse. We celebrate it in different ways, we glorify it with our entertainment and media, which earns millions of dollars for creating narratives of the US killing of innocents. Worst of all, we keep doing it. Vietnam, Desert Storm, Enduring Freedom. Millions of innocent people dead.

But the dancing. Whoo. That's just horrible.

"Zionism reject God and the Goyim! It leaves a man completely alone, subject only to, now watch this, the rule of other Jews!"

Yup. And the deliberately nurtured sense of persecution or being constantly besieged leads to Talibanism or the world of Pol Pot and N. Korea.

I have heard that this constant trouble with nearby arabs acts as a distraction and safety valve in Israeli society. That if tomorrow there were no more border problems and no external forces galvanising Israel that it would itself fall into a civil war.

And the candy. Dear sweet Jesus, don't forget the candy.

Palestinian candy also causes tooth decay. Will their perfidy never end?

It's pretty easy to win an engagement against an enemy that has been economically, medically, and nutritionmally starved for months on end. Then go in with tanks and fighter jets. Wow, Israel, you are so tough!

That is the way it's gonna play out, and not too long from now. What are you gonna do, insist journalists are allowed into the Gaza strip so they can "see the truth for themselves"

You really should look a little bit at Jewish history, boychiks. Do you really think US ascendancy will last forever, and elite opinion will always support Israel.

Oh, you can really trust the Goyim, is that it?

No matter how much it seems to "embiggen" you, Zionism was not a good idea. I know how badly you need Zionism for your sexual health, but still...

more likely is that he's being willfully disingenuous again...weird

Glenn openly admits Hamas commits war crimes

Glenn posits that Israeli reactions are, at least, not necessarily productive and are fully within our (American citizens) rights to discuss given our economic ties with Israel

Elephantman makes the implication that Glenn is defending Hamas

War crimes committed against somebody does not give them the right to disregard law in retaliation

why are you so god damned dumb?

Best one-liner of the thread.

Congrats.

Glenn also said:

This truly horrific video -- purportedly of a recent Israeli bombing of a civilian Gazan market -- has been widely cited. I can't and don't vouch for its authenticity

Which part of "I can't and don't vouch for its authenticity" do you find hard to understand?

Since there is a complete Israeli blockade on reporters going into the Gaza strip, the IDF has so far been successful at sanitizing the results of their slaughter. But I think Glenn has a valid point; the footage in the cited video probably isn't much different that what we'd see in the aftermath of Israel's recent air-raid which killed 4 sisters and their mother, for example.

It is fascinating to watch the Israelis say that there "is no humanitarian crisis" in Gaza,

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=96339

...UNRWA (the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East) begs to differ:

http://www.un.org/unrwa/english.html

I for one am very grateful for Glenn Greenwald's courageous and astute observations detailing just how twisted our frames of reference have become in this country. Now that he's grabbed hold of the biggest "third rail" in American political topics (the issue of Israel lobby's stranglehold on our political class), the trolls will be coming from all directions to tear him down.

Keep up the good work, Glenn!

And not even a mousefart about what is good for the United States. Typical.

As others have pointed out, this post doesn't really have anything to do with the same standard Israeli/Palestinian arguments that have been exhaustively recited by the same group of people here for days now.

But the Israel-Firsters will make it about that, since it serves their strategy of distraction and deflection by cutting and pasting the same mind-numbing talking points over and over, and making the debate about that instead of this:

But there's a major difference: I'm not passionately invested one way or the other in Israel. In fact, my strong policy preference would be for the U.S. to cease treating it like the 51st state and supporting it no matter what it does, and then, to me, it'd be like any other distant conflict -- for the participants to resolve on their own.

And the troll army can't answer this question honestly:

Do you have any emotional, cultural or religious attachments to Israel that make you see it as more than just another foreign country?

But I'll bet they have no problems answering this one:

Do you have any emotional, cultural or religious attachments to the United States that make you see it as more than just another foreign country?

The answer is obviously no, as their thousands of Israeli-First talking point propaganda posts make NO mention of the United States or how any of this affects perceptions of it, or us. They just don't care about how this affects the United States.

Because it is all about Israel, defending Israel, and parroting the talking points that support Israel. Not even a mousefart about the United States, a country they obviously feel like they have no "emotional, cultural or religious attachments to" since they completely ignore what effects this "war" will have on the already poor worldwide perceptions of the United States.

That if tomorrow there were no more border problems and no external forces galvanising Israel that it would itself fall into a civil war.

Hard to say. But it is safe to say that Israel is a completely artificial state, which doesn't even serve the interest of its own "citizens". It gives Zenwick and Winsmith a hard-on, so that's something.