You are a presumptuous insect. Our Jebbie has better things to do than hand out awards to ... wait, never mind.

Thank you for explaining how our bombs become Freedom Bombs. Now I get it - I finally get it!!

So we once again have AG and the WSJ outline why they are such victims of torture accusastions, mistreatment in the msm, etc. it is all so tiresome as well as pathologically pathetic.

I certainly hope that the international community holds its own war crime trials of US officials in absentia. The end result may be that all US officials charged and or convicted of War Crimes will no longer be able to travel outside of the US without risking arrest and detention.

Naturally, they will then claim to be victims, of the international courts of law.

How do we cast our votes, or will the 'establishment elites' be casting that vote for us?

The site says voting begins on Jan. 5, so I would check back in on that date.

Frankly, that's pathetic.

You go to the link that Causual Observer posted and scroll down to Best Liberal Blog. Then, if you so desire, you click GlennGreenwald's Unclaimed Territory.

Here's the link again:

http://2008.weblogawards.org/site-news/2008-weblog-awards-finalists/

I do often wonder. Sometimes I think that the sugar/fly theory produces a false image of agreement in the short term which simply later dissipates. I often think that more forceful arguments (for lack of a better term) have the opposite effect in the short term, but are more likely to linger in the intellect, and eventually modify views. I just don't know.

DCLaw...that Onion video was perfect.

I have never gotten into so many arguments, with so many unquestioning robotons, as I did during [2002-2003]. A time when even posing contrary views to the brainless idiocy emanating from Washington terrified many people, to the point that obvious truths (such as Saddam barely had a standing military let alone the possibility to nuke the US) weren't spoken by people who knew better for fear of everything from personal harm to losing their jobs. It wasn’t a time when making gentle, rational arguments swayed some people’s opinion.

My own experience was the same. I remember Republicans and other proponents of invading Iraq flying into a blinding rage at even the mildest, most logical argument against invasion. Everything and anything that rhetorically stood in the way of glorious, cathartic "Bombs Over Baghdad" was beaten down with knee-jerk questions why I "supported Saddam" and whether I wanted more 911s.

It was a profoundly surreal and intensely frightening time. I always kept at it, even organizing rallies and giving speeches, but I was even physically threatened for the terrible crime of standing my ground with unpatriotic facts and un-American logic. It was like a huge swath of the country just went completely insane, stoked of course by "leaders" benefiting from the hysteria. So much of what we're dealing with now, and the refusal of so many in the political and media establishment to do anything to remedy what has occurred, is directly attributable to this collective national bloodthirst and madness.

No wonder they all would rather let bygones be bygones.

This works for allies, too. You'll note that in the current Israeli actions in Gaza, any target hit by definition retroactively becomes a 'Hamas' target, and thus proof of the pinpoint benevolence of Our Ally in carrying out such noble and kind targeting procedures.

Hamas & its paramilitaries, for their sake, hew to older, more brutal standards, and don't pretend to be doing anything other than blowing people up and killing them when they fire their missiles at the surrounding areas. Now, whether that's an inherent limit or a budgetary / technological one, I don't know; my guess is that if they ever came in possession of missiles which could be precisely targeted, they would suddenly join the crowd who uses the fact of targeting as a propagandistic argument for their own benevolence.

Thanks. Somehow, I overlooked that.

I think Glenn should put a link on his front page so all his fans know where to go to vote when the poll opens. Cause you know that lunatic, Taylor Marsh, is gonna do it.

I can't stand her.

Then, if you so desire, you click GlennGreenwald's Unclaimed Territory.

Which brings you... right back here.

Voting is scheduled to begin on January 5, 2009.

One of you guys could post a reminder then. That seems way far in the future to me...

I had tried that, Kitt, but it just took me to Glenn's page. I don't think you can vote until the 5th.

Opps, that wasn't quite the correct instruction. But you do need to go to the link in order to eventually vote beginning on January 5.

As this administration leaves office and can no longer be impeached, I wonder, what can I do, sitting here, to bring these detestable criminals to justice?

Writing my legislators won't help, they'll soon be beyond their reach (if they had the guts to do anything about it, which they don't). The Obama campaign certainly showed the power of grassroots organizing - is there someone out there with the passion and the know-how to do the same thing for justice that Obama did for his campaign?

Any ideas, anyone?

I think the passion and energy is better served when it is used for the case being made and not at the character of the other person making it. However, we are all unique individuals and should use the technique that best fits our character and temperament. When in a group discussion, I find it useful to sometimes use the technique/emotion that is missing in the discussion.

MoveOn is one of the most effective grass roots organizations I've ever witnessed. They are deeply funded and have millions upon millions of members.

They sent all the members a questionaire asking which three or five things they want MoveOn to focus on as their new agenda. Accountability for the Bush Administration was one of the options and I voted for it.

Unfortunately, other MoveOn members voted for healthcare, economy, etc.. - important stuff, but frankly a dumb choice, because Obama has already stated he's going to address those issues. He's already stated that much, so MoveOn doesn't really need to throw good money at something the new administration is already championing.

It's the options like "Accountability For War Crimes" that will likely fall off the radar with so much going on in the economy.

So MoveOn likely will not be pressing for accountability.