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Monday, December 29, 2008 12:00 AM

David Gregory shows why he's the perfect replacement for Tim Russert

The new Meet the Press star conducts an "interview" with the Israeli Foreign Minister that makes the media's pre-Iraq-war behavior look adversarial by comparison

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Monday, December 29, 2008 10:03 PM

David Rose at Vanity Fair

How the Bush Administration strengthened Hamas:

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/04/gaza200804

Vanity Fair has obtained confidential documents, since corroborated by sources in the U.S. and Palestine, which lay bare a covert initiative, approved by Bush and implemented by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams, to provoke a Palestinian civil war.

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- - David Rose

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Scott MacLeod (at TIME magazine's Middle East blog) was far too kind when he criticized the Bush Administration for merely being neglectful.

Monday, December 29, 2008 10:12 PM

Sysprog

Rashid Khalidi has a great introduction in his book, The Iron Cage, in which he examines how the west (including Israel) has created many of its most deadly Islamic adversaries at first in order to undermine secular groups (Al q'aeda, for the US). Israel did this with the Muslim Brotherhood in the seventies and eighties, in order to undermine secular organizations and resistance movements in the West Bank and Gaza. At times, the Brotherhood even collaborated with its patron.

This collaboration radicalized certain elements of the organization, that rebelled against the relationship. Organized and structured by Israel, the offshoot, Hamas, was ready straight out of the box. Since then, Hamas has always been a convenient foil to Israel's claim of the they are in danger of being pushed into the sea. Unaligned and antagonistic with the civil society organizations, Hamas must by definition, always seek its own agenda against Israel, and finds it nearly impossible to collaborate with secular organizations.

This being said, Hamas has also evolved, and there are many currents within it that are less religeous and more pragmatically motivated, that have even indicated they are willing to renounce the Hamas charter. It has been these movements that Israel has sought to route in refusing to recognize the Hamas government or negotiate with it.

Monday, December 29, 2008 10:15 PM

Sums it up as well as I have seen

Gaza: The Logic of Colonial Power,

by Nir Rosen, Published on Monday, December 29, 2008 by The Guardian/UK (see sig)

As so often, the term 'terrorism' has proved a rhetorical smokescreen under cover of which the strong crush the weak

I have spent most of the Bush administration's tenure reporting from Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Somalia and other conflicts.

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Attacking civilians is the last, most desperate and basic method of resistance when confronting overwhelming odds and imminent eradication. The Palestinians do not attack Israeli civilians with the expectation that they will destroy Israel. The land of Palestine is being stolen day after day; the Palestinian people is being eradicated day after day. As a result, they respond in whatever way they can to apply pressure on Israel. Colonial powers use civilians strategically, settling them to claim land and dispossess the native population, be they Indians in North America or Palestinians in what is now Israel and the Occupied Territories. When the native population sees that there is an irreversible dynamic that is taking away their land and identity with the support of an overwhelming power, then they are forced to resort to whatever methods of resistance they can.

I could argue that all Americans are benefiting from their country's exploits without having to pay the price, and that, in today's world, the imperial machine is not merely the military but a military-civilian network. And I could also say that Americans elected the Bush administration twice and elected representatives who did nothing to stop the war, and the American people themselves did nothing. From the perspective of an American, or an Israeli, or other powerful aggressors, if you are strong, everything you do is justifiable, and nothing the weak do is legitimate. It's merely a question of what side you choose: the side of the strong or the side of the weak.

Israel and its allies in the west and in Arab regimes such as Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia have managed to corrupt the PLO leadership, to suborn them with the promise of power at the expense of liberty for their people, creating a first - a liberation movement that collaborated with the occupier. Israeli elections are coming up and, as usual, these elections are accompanied by war to bolster the candidates. You cannot be prime minister of Israel without enough Arab blood on your hands. An Israeli general has threatened to set Gaza back decades, just as they threatened to set Lebanon back decades in 2006. As if strangling Gaza and denying its people fuel, power or food had not set it back decades already.

The democratically elected Hamas government was targeted for destruction from the day it won the elections in 2006. The world told the Palestinians that they cannot have democracy, as if the goal was to radicalise them further and as if that would not have a consequence. Israel claims it is targeting Hamas's military forces. This is not true. It is targeting Palestinian police forces and killing them, including some such as the chief of police, Tawfiq Jaber, who was actually a former Fatah official who stayed on in his post after Hamas took control of Gaza. What will happen to a society with no security forces? What do the Israelis expect to happen when forces more radical than Hamas gain power?

A Zionist Israel is not a viable long-term project and Israeli settlements, land expropriation and separation barriers have long since made a two state solution impossible. There can be only one state in historic Palestine. In coming decades, Israelis will be confronted with two options. Will they peacefully transition towards an equal society, where Palestinians are given the same rights, à la post-apartheid South Africa? Or will they continue to view democracy as a threat? If so, one of the peoples will be forced to leave. Colonialism has only worked when most of the natives have been exterminated. But often, as in occupied Algeria, it is the settlers who flee. Eventually, the Palestinians will not be willing to compromise and seek one state for both people. Does the world want to further radicalise them?

Do not be deceived: the persistence of the Palestine problem is the main motive for every anti-American militant in the Arab world and beyond. But now the Bush administration has added Iraq and Afghanistan as additional grievances. America has lost its influence on the Arab masses, even if it can still apply pressure on Arab regimes. But reformists and elites in the Arab world want nothing to do with America.

A failed American administration departs, the promise of a Palestinian state a lie, as more Palestinians are murdered. A new president comes to power, but the people of the Middle East have too much bitter experience of US administrations to have any hope for change. President-elect Obama, Vice President-elect Biden and incoming secretary of state Hillary Clinton have not demonstrated that their view of the Middle East is at all different from previous administrations. As the world prepares to celebrate a new year, how long before it is once again made to feel the pain of those whose oppression it either ignores or supports?

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/12/29-7

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