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on the other hand, I never know what the hell bebop is talking about

There are plenty of places in the letters section where one person has basically posted a couple of entire pages in a row...GG seems to make more of an issue of it than other writers at salon.

Keep in mind that I feel that Glenn Greenwald has been one of Salon's best acquisitions and no doubt the arrangement has been very beneficial for him...

This really isn't Glenn's blog--it's Salon's; they pay him money to write for their site. He is fortunate enough that they allow him to police and close the comment section to his articles as he sees fit and thus gives it a blog feel...However, I feel that he ceased being a blogger when he started getting paid by a news outlet, (Salon Media Group), for his published opinions i.e. he's become a journalist. Whether the MSM sees him that way is another matter, but note that he is now appearing on the MSM. It's like Joan Walsh saying she has a blog--she doesn't she's the freakin' editor.

That said, this is also why I became a subscriber to this site, along with 100,000+ suckers 7 years ago--i.e. to support alternative media and promote alternative viewpoints, (cause' you know how making money makes everything legitimate, or in Salon's case, not quite going bankrupt...). Salon is still marginal in many ways, but it is serving that purpose. My 2 cents.

As for Bebop-o, Klytus, sure they are annoying, but so are a lot of other posters. YMMV.

I would also like to mention that I think Glenn has some of the best commenters on the net.

Indeed.

"Not to beleaguer the point, but this is another example of why I think you need to do more research into the history and culture of the Middle East before condemning Israel."

Yes, and we should also do more research into the history and culture of Judaism (YES ALL OF IT, BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, JEWS ARE THE SAME EVERYWHERE, JUST AS THE MIDDLE EAST IS ONE MONOLITHIC CULTURAL BLOCK)before condemning Hamas.

Glenn,

You stated in your article:

"Of course, if you ask Hamas why they blow themselves up in pizza parlors"

Not to beleaguer the point, but this is another example of why I think you need to do more research into the history and culture of the Middle East before condemning Israel.

Hamas uses private citizens and women to carryout attacks. They use the population not only as a shield, but as a weapon. They do not 'blow themselves up'. Hamas uses others.

On topic for this article, I appreciate your watchful eye on how the media is not doing a more adequate job at discovery and challenges of policy and officials in governments.

I don't like the stuff in this venue and I did say it. My impression is that Glenn intends the comments section for comments on what he has written; he has more or less said so on more than one occasion.

And now, I really do think that Jebbie had a point.

I think I still have my Fiend Folio somewhere.

OK, back to the topic, i.e., David Gregory! I think he looks like a badly constructed muppet. Other impressions?

that's not what Glenn's blog or comments section is for, nor is it what I look for here

I have, obviously, no argument with the second half of that... but I'm getting a little weary of people trying to dictate what the comments section is "for." If you don't like free verse, sarcasm, irony, or my dumb jokes - by all means say that. You've as much right to your opinion as anyone else.

Comments section is for the commenters. Glenn gets a veto, but the rest of us are just monkeys in the trees.

I put this hree down and walk away.

Bop and GC are the same person -- formerly also writing as Clownsense. Klytus, I'm not sure about.

I have posted a note to Art on the Wog and I have another note from someone else ready to go up in a few moments.

Could we please take the conversation about Bop and Klytus over there. You can send either of them a note by sending it to me at the Jebbie email address and I'll put it up as soon as is humanly possible. This issue is just as distracting as what caused it.

Please

email: jebbie@webdsi.com

I watched kind of a 'year in review' or maybe it was a review of the entire history of the program the other night about Bryant Gumbles show Real Sports. There's a section in it about drunks at NFL games.

I'll have to check that out for sure. In the meantime, I already know exactly what you're talking about. Anytime I wonder, slack-jawed, how a certain politician could possibly have been elected, or how a certain movie could have done so well at the box office, I think of them (and their sad, repressed wives).

In high school and in college, one could get away with a certain amount of stupidity and not necessarily have reason to feel bad about it. Beyond that, it takes a special kind of psychic numbness not to feel deep shame for being a senseless lout.

(And for some reason, when I think of them, I imagine their tortured and rotted digestive tracts.) OK I've gone too far!

If you like Bop and Celery but not Klytus, just say so. The idea that the former two were enlightening (or that evil Klytus led poor Bop down the bad path), while the latter was annoying is pretty much irrelevant to those of us who don't read any of their stuff because it takes up too much space and isn't helpful. And those others who don't find any of it more than an odd splatter of text, or interpret it (rightly or wrongly) as camouflaged aggression that never bears a price in response.

To be honest, I'm surrounded by (self-styled) poets and have to read a lot of poetry I'd rather not in a writing group I belong to; that's not what Glenn's blog or comments section is for, nor is it what I look for here. I think I'm not alone on this one.