I'm pretty danged sure that Amity's comment was snark.

Obama could name Dick Cheney for National Security Advisor and Colin Powell to the UN and some of the self-righteous zombies over at Daily Kos would lineup to hail the nominations as "transformative" while simultaneously ridiculing the progressives for a "lack of patience.''

One of the great ironies of the past year, has been watching how the Kossack community has literally morphed into the "Bushies" of the Democratic Party. Whatever Obama (& friends) say is okay. And anyone who strays too far away from the party-line (or God forbid disagrees!)- Kucinich, C. Sheehan, Nader, Hillary/supporters and to a certain extent, GG - is off-handidly dismissed and subsequently vilified.

The point is that these leaders [refusing to quietly stand by FDR] represented organizations whose members were all overwhelmingly loyal allies and fervent electoral supporters of Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Loyal, you say. But the fact remains that they sledgehammered Franklin Roosevelt, at a time of worldwide strife and economic collapse — and thereby weakened the entire fabric of American life.

It's astonishing that you would use the excerpt you cited to justify so-called "progressive" pressure on Barack Obama to somehow achieve advancement of important policy goals now, in another time of worldwide crisis.

It's almost as if you believe that these fancy-pants abstractions like racial equality, social equity, and civil rights are part of surviving and thriving in times of crisis — rather than luxuries that we have to learn to do without, until such time as we can afford them again later on.

Just think if those benighted agitators hadn't opened their can of worms on the eve of the Second World War. Without all those black servicemen, like those pesky Tuskeegee Airmen for example, all of that messiness in the 1950s and 1960s might not have gotten off the ground. The social unrest of the late 60s era might not have happened — we might not even have had to leave Vietnam!

Just imagine — we could still be in Southeast Asia today if it weren't for the butterfly of antagonistic progressive politics waving its wings back in 1941 and causing an entire generation to question the basic assumptions of the good old days.

It's no wonder left-wingers in this country get accused of hating America! Why else would anyone keep wanting to change it?

that i will post numerous post for successionthoughts - this was the last -

From now on I will be a good girl!

When "Conservatives" "win" Presidential elections it is mandatory and quite proper to appoint the most partisan, corporate ideologs (termed "competant") to all significant posts.

When "Liberals-moderates" achieve victory in spite of the uneven playing field of right-wing radio, militarism-warfare propaganda,

authoritarian mind-think, etc. they must clearly restrain themselves from allowing leftist propensities filter into appointing the new leaders in their Administration.

There is fainting-induced fear to think the country might sway leftward in any attempt to bring balance back to American society- rottenness as depressing as any rusty bridge or the water dripping through the ceiling at your local elementary school- is apparently as appropriate as the faulty wiring at newly-constructed army bases in Iraq.

Well, even if so, I've been reading that sort of thing way too often lately and it's pissing the crap out of me, so apologies for no longer being able to tell satire from real Obamabotery.

Seriously, to me, the best way to view Obama is not as the anti-Bush, but as a non-Bush. I.e. not possessing many of the many horrible qualities that Bush possessed, but at the same time not necessarily being the exact opposite of them on the good-bad scale. Obama is vastly more reassuring than Bush, but he also has his faults, and aspects that we have every right to be leery of. And he's not the progressive messiah that we've prayed for. At most, he's someone who will make implementing a progressive agenda possible again.

Which, of course, is not nothing. But not everything, either.

don't believe a word the jokers are telling you Amity was dead serious and you should hit her with all you got!

Progressivism is inherently and necessarily self-critical and adaptive, which no formala could possibly keep up with and represent.

Exactly my point! How the heck are good, decent liberals supposed to keep up with an ever-changing self-criticality? When do we stop agitating and demanding progress and just follow?

Everyone worked hard to get Obama elected ... why? So we can all work even harder to keep him honest? What sort of dismal, cynical vision is that? Obama doesn't want us to be the change we want to see anymore. He wants us to see the change we wanted him to be. (If he hasn't already said that, I'm sure he will.)

Look, you want a bottom line? Here's the bottom line. Being president is hard. We elected Obama because he's up to the job. How can he possibly do the job with all these people trying to get him to do different things?

Let's let the people who try to get him to do different things for a living handle that. They're the experts. It's what they get paid for.

And pay no attention to that wrong-headed leftie pinko Kitt.

~

Don Obama? Sitting quietly on a limb in a tree,

quacking like a duck in the 'diary' what? squeak.

yak, cackle, chuckle, yakuza, abbess, nun doodle.

kappa, and a # ten. boo-coo. no cool. shrill yapper.

duck, geese, green looking goo dung. O not Greens.

Greens are good for your blood and builds white cells.

Red blood needs great greens. Glean. o.

Ignore irritating comments like YKW. Ya.

Put plans into place. Chew garden greens.

Whine? Listening:`St. Hildegard of Bingen?

Keep a diary. Be nice. Sip. Invite neighbors.

Plan methods to cease. O desist dumb wino.

Dumb comments. Big wino. O Quack. Whoa. Be a silent Quaker. Sit under a tree, and become a Benedictine recluse? Try harder to shush moths.

I truly love you... you sick bastard.

See, that's more like it!