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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
The law man wrote:
Heru, I posed the question to Adnoto, but I'll engage your answer ([Adnoto], you're not off the hook).
Massive, widespread, non-violent civil disobedience.
Or, just no one goes to work or pays any bills for one month. That would be total havoc.
Or, everyone goes to work but pays no bills for 3 months. Buy gas and food in cash and spend nothing else.
I was asking for specifics. Anyone can describe general conditions, which would be the putative outcome of the necessary specifics. How, specifically would that occur, what would be the catalyst, and how - again, specifically - could you get the critical mass of such people to agree on the official purpose and demands behind the action?
-- DCLaw1
I was describing specific tactics. They were off the top of the head, but I think all would work. I'll throw in one more. One million people in the street in DC keeping government drones from going to and fro. Throw in NYC also. Perhaps all the major cities with huge crowds just standing and singing songs.
I think you want to know how such a thing (or some other mass action) might happen in the first place; that is, how it gets started. No?
The sort answer is to take a look at chaos theory for your answer. The system must reach a state of being fairly unstable --- weak, even if it does not look like it from the outside. Like Russia when the monarchy fell, or the USSR when the commies fell, or even France when its monarchy fell.
Given a state of high dissatisfaction then there is room for a leader (or a group) to appear and work a plan. It could be a plan that is non-violent (relatively speaking of course), or it might be "blood and guns".
It is also possible that the masses rise up with only one idea --- destroy the present order and they have no real idea what will come after. This can happen when the rulers follow the "beat them until they are happy" method of crowd control. :-)
If we want to get even more specific and look at 2008 America, then we need ask, "what is the biggest fault that our present government does that the people might come to resent"? It is spending all the resources on making continual war on the entire world. Even if you wanted to be "top dog", the cost is ruining the country.
The very poor (I am one, or at least getting there), see only getting reamed by the government. Trillions for merchants of war, bankers, and the like; but nothing for the working poor, the hungry, the homeless, the downtrodden. We have very little to lose. In many cases, we have nothing to lose.
And we have allies. The continual war making has lead to deduced freedom and civil rights at home. The attitude also leads to draconian laws like "3 strikes" or the odious and unconstitutional drug laws. The people effected by these things may not be poor, but they are perhaps becoming less happy by the day.
The hatred of the present conditions is there. The butterfly might flap its wings on the other side of the world and cause a hurricane of demonstrations here. Then someone (perhaps adnoto) will get out front after he sees where the mob is headed --- and then he will lead. Later, historians will claim that the "leader" started it all.
I hope that you find the above more specific. I don't really know if I could do any better given the short amount of time that I have to work on this and the short amount of space we have here.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE4B34BC20081204
"Harper's request for suspension was unprecedented. No prime minister had asked for Parliament to be suspended to avoid a confidence vote in the House of Commons."
Revolutions can sometimes start with rash actions on the part of a leader that wakes his citizens to the reality of politics rather than the myth.
Not in Canada though; I do not think a Canadian would revolt over anything. (unless it would be cutting off drinking in the winter!)
The Canada news~;,
You sent me to look up Andy Goldsmith. He did some nature art in Nova Scotia in the water.
Andy Goldsmith does unusual work. Browse `The Andy Goldsmith Project? It can't hurt. His thinking is interesting. My son met him when he was at Cornell University. Michael helped A. Goldsmith gather stick-twigs and leaves. The nature art in water gets washed away in one day. At moon tide, gone?
The all day project gone.
He'll make art, ice cream?
Sun rises and ice do melt.
Time. You may enjoy him?
I believe AG helps a devil?
He did art to retain sanity.
Feinstein/Wyden might too?
http://simla.colostate.edu/~cullenwc/
The book is beautiful. Too expensive.
Hit Andy Goldsmith Project. Beautiful.
My son said he likable. But AG cranks.
Not the DOJ Attorney General. He nice?
AG, the Andy Goldsmith AG. He's nicer.
So your kid knew Andy? That beats all.
Well, I must go to a meeting and I need this job. So, talk to you later.
how often does reality have to tell the fools that we are right in the middle of 'THE REVOLUTION'
(even if the label says something completely else) - But you might try to climb out of the bubble and look around and then you might realize the question: 'What would nonviolent revolution in America look like' - already has been answered by millions of Americans, who don't (can't) pay their mortgages and Credit cards anymore -and our 'Revolutionary' of the week is probably
'The Donald' who just told the Deutsche Bank, that he is unable to pay back a loan of over 600 mill - (Touche!) That is much - much more effective than anything adnoto could dream up -
And even if the government will socialize all the Banks in the coming year (and a lot of the main industries too) the outcome will look like a REAL REVOLUTION - I promise!
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
Salon headlines in your mailbox
