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Thursday, December 4, 2008 12:00 AM

Why do Feinstein and Wyden sound much different on the torture issue now?

The two Senators spent the year emphatically insisting that the CIA's interrogators comply with the Army Field Manual. With Democrats in control, they're not so emphatic any longer

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Thursday, December 4, 2008 11:45 PM

dvw, RE: "Obama can be trusted as a matter of law"

Obama is the newest, open protection for these Chicago thugs, no different, really, than planting their personal attorney, Jenner, on the Warren Commission.....

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/WireStory?id=4449809&page=3

...Obama replied that Brzezinski is an informal, not a key, adviser"

...And he said critics' e-mails never mention Lester Crown, a member of his national finance committee who is "considered about as hawkish and tough when it comes to Israel as anybody in the country."

News in MArch, 1977:

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?as_ldate=1977&as_hdate=1977&q=del+Webb+henry+crown&lnav=od&btnG=Search

"For [Del] Webb, the Flamingo experience led to a series of deals with other developers who had their own ties to the Mob-dominated Chicago political machine, including Henry Crown

and Arnold S. Kirkeby of Los Angeles. Crown, now 80...became a close adviser to Webb and one of the few men allowed in the inner councils of the corporation.

He has been described by a close associate as Webb’s "money man." A.A. McCullom, a former Webb executive, said he had to be interviewed by Crown before he was hired by the Webb corporation in 1961."

http://www2.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/1996/11/18/BU49588.DTL&hw=assassinated&sn=009&sc=442

How Kennedy Assassination Affected Some Stock Prices

JONATHAN MARSHALL

"Nov. 18, 1996

....But the facts speak tellingly about how accidents of history can affect great fortunes.

A postscript for assassination buffs: No individual stood to lose more from the TFX scandal than Chicago investor Henry Crown, who owned 20 percent of General Dynamics. His personal attorney, Albert Jenner, became a senior staff attorney on the Warren Commission, in charge of investigating the possibility of a conspiracy.In later years, Jenner also represented Chicago labor racketeer Allen Dorfman. Dorfman's stepfather Paul, a leading figure in the Chicago mob, ran the Waste Handlers Union in Chicago in 1939 with Jack Ruby, Lee Harvey Oswald's future killer...

...Allen Dorfman was murdered, gangland-style, in 1983 in the company of another friend of Ruby, Irwin Weiner. Attorney Jenner obtained Weiner's acquittal in a 1975 federal labor racketeering case after the government's leading witness was shotgunned to death.

Weiner was called to testify in 1978 before the House Select Committee on Assassinations about his relationship with Ruby, including a phone conversation with Ruby shortly before the assassination. He said the call was innocent.

The committee was investigating the theory -- which it never proved -- that organized crime had Ruby silence Oswald to disguise its own role in the Kennedy assassination....."

From a "Google Books" search, page 155 of Deep Politics and the Death of JFK", by Peter Dale Scott:

..., Ragen knew not only the Capone outfit in Chicago but gamblers and mob bosses all over the country, "including Annenberg's close friend, Meyer Lansky."

We learn from the diaries of the late journalist Drew Pearson that it was Pearson who had persuaded Ragen, one month before his death, (Drew Pearson's words, published in 1974):

"to meet with the FBI. I sold the idea to Tom Clark, then Attorney General, and the FBI interviewed Ragen at great length. They brough back a multitude of tips, leads, and evidence. Tom Clark told me afterward that it led to very high places. J. Edgar Hoover intimated the same thing. He said the people Ragen pointed to had now reformed. I learned later that it pointed to the Hilton Hotel chain, HENRY CROWN, the big Jewish financier in Chicago [involved in Cook County real estate deals with Jake Arvey, the local Democratic Party Boss], and Walter Annenberg [son of the prewar wire-service owner Moe Annenberg]."

The liberal Pearson's information is partly cooroborated by the right wing crime writers Lait and Mortimer, who reported that HENRY CROWN bankrolled Jake Arvey in real estate, just as he put up $3 million for Conrad Hilton to purchase the Waldorf Astoria. "The syndicate", they noted elsewher, "owns a controlling interest in three of the most importand hotel chanins in the country."

Pearson's disclosure ..Sidney Korshak, a lawyer frequently identified as the representative in Los Angeles of the Chicago mob. Korshak had also done business for HENRY CROWN; and the Hilton-Korshak retainer was in fact recommended by Patrick Hoy, a vice-president of HENRY CROWN'S company, Gerneral Dynamics, and a "close friend of both Hilton and Korshack."

After Nov. 22. 1963, "they" didn't waste any time, before appointing Albert E. Jenner to "fix" things:

Four months ago, this story was reported by WaPo:

Gerald Ford Told FBI of Skeptics on Warren Commission

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/07/AR2008080702757.html

Background FBI FOIA released documents on AP web page:

http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/wdc/documents/ford/ford03.PDF

...Ford reported to DeLoach that at a top-secret meeting of the commission held on December 16, 1963 the commission’s general counsel, J.Lee Rankin, had been empowered to retain to "so-called technicians." The two who were under consideration were Francis W.H. Adams, a former New York City police commissioner, and Albert E. Jenner, Jr., a Chicago lawyer. Ford, the documents disclose, could only remember the last names of the two men. The FBI then began an investigation to determine who "Adams" and "Jenner" were....

Thursday, December 4, 2008 11:50 PM

,,,and, dvw....a little more....

Lester Crown, was very much involved with his father, Henry's blatantly "conflicted" attorney, Albert E. Jenner, but also with Patrick Hoy, as well:

http://www.lib.niu.edu/1976/ii761206.html

Corruption in the legislature Cement Bribery Trial

"....As if [Lester] Crown's account of shabby dealings in the executive suites of a major corporation did not raise enough eyebrows, Crown's lawyer added a dash of surprise himself. Albert E. Jenner, Jr., the prestigious Chicago lawyer who had served as minority counsel in the U.S. House Judiciary Committee's impeachment proceedings concerning President Nixon and whose law firm had negotiated the package immunity deal for Crown and company...rising from his front-row seat in the spectators' section to object to a question posed to his client...."

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/chicagotribune/access/598689352.html?dids=598689352:598689352&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&type=historic&date=Sep+23%2C+1970&author=WILLIAM+CURRIE&pub=Chicago+Tribune+(1963-Current+file)&edition=&startpage=21&desc=Ledgers+Show+Hoy+Did+Not+Repay+Crown%27s+Sons

Sep 23, 1970

Accounting ledgers made public yesterday in Federal District Court revealed that Patrick H. Hoy never repaid $156,738 he borrowed from the sons of Henry Crown, the industrialist.

Only the "owning" of billions of dollars of mob derived wealth could get someone this kind of "juice":

Governor helped Crown keep U.S. security OK

Author: Michael Briggs

Date: August 4, 1986

"Gov. Thompson, who granted industrialist Lester Crown immunity from prosecution in a bribery case as a federal prosecutor more than 10 years ago, also gave Crown a recent character reference for the Defense Department.

Both U.S. senators from Illinois also heaped praise on Crown, who was seeking to keep his top-secret defense clearance.."

Apparently, nothing has change in 22 years....as both recent, Illinois senators are still partial to the Crown family fortune....they should be...they certainly are paid to be....

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