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If you address some concrete scenarios the failure of your reasoning will be plain.-- wbgonn/blockquote>
That's one of the problems with your comments on this subject. You think that these TV movie "scenarios" that you're making up are "concrete scenarios" when actually they're just made up horse droppings that you add into your 'argument' in order to claim some sort of victory.
Also, you keep insisting, without a thread of evidence, in your "concrete scenarios" that 1) the bad guy or gal has the information you need, when in fact you can't possibly know that, and 2)he or she will give it up only if the unknown information is tortured out of him or her.
Aside from all of that you're putting your faith in someone else to do your torturing for you. I guess you think that frees you from guilt? At least that's who would be doing the torturing in the real world rather than the made up one that you've been telling us about.