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Another thing all you no-torture types always forget is this: If it wasn't for torture, and the persistent, selfless efforts of our troops to detain, imprison and torture a large number of Iraqis who were rounded up at random, would those Iraqis have even given us a war? I really doubt it. Those Middle Easterners are, as we know, incorrigibly lazy, and don't got a whole bunch patriotism for their own country, let alone our's. Look, after the Iraqi State forces melted away under our Shock and Awe, all the rest of those Iraqi idiots were just gonna sit there! So we send our huge Army (and the rest and all those contractors, too) at great expense and risk, to fight on the Iraqis but the bastards wouldn't fight!! That's how they are! Ungrateful to their very bones. And after all, lightly armed civilians with improvised explosives are not much of a match for US Armed Forces, but still!
So naturally, we had to round up, detain and imprison under torturous conditions large numbers of Iraqis, and it took almost a year
