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Why do Feinstein and Wyden sound much different on the torture issue now?

The two Senators spent the year emphatically insisting that the CIA's interrogators comply with the Army Field Manual. With Democrats in control, they're not so emphatic any longer

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  • Friday, December 5, 2008 02:28 PM

    @ Che

    I'm sure some correlation could be drawn between the increasing apathy on the Left and the corporate infiltration and consolidation of the mainstream media rising in tandem with the Reagan presidency and its faux-libertarian trappings.

    And in that sense, it seems to me that the internet has a ways to go in successfully combating the corporate noise machine... While adnoto might be misguided in looking to bloggers for leadership, I think there's still a critical gap between "legitimate" bloggers and the "loony fringe". I certainly don't expect a policy-oriented blog like UT to be the starting point for that; on the other hand, considering its devotion to Democratic politicians, Salon.com as a whole could probably represent a broader spectrum of liberal/progressive/left beliefs. Like with MSNBC, it's a good step to see media outlets willing to take on the GOP and administration without impunity, but I think the next 4 years will be crucial in determining if these outlets are indeed liberal, or just in the bag for Democrats. I'm not criticizing, I know it's a process that will require evolution, but it won't evolve if readers simply substitute for mainstream media sources with web sources.

    I have a feeling that immediate economic necessity will catalyze popular dissent quicker than e-media, simply because of the dire straits into which we're rapidly heading this winter, and I do expect internet media to take notice before the MSM is capable of doing so, so I do feel this new medium has a lot of promise that simply has yet to be realized in full.

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