I was paying attentionto your mind!

Thighs are a terrible thing to baste!

Ching!

The foundation of this phenomenon has always been intergenerational aggrandizement. When Gustavas Myers wrote in the 30's, it was assumed heredity and tax laws made the "great fortunes" obsolete. Dismantling those laws is the underpinning of the power obtained by elite eugenics. Perhaps Adams was not so wrong after all that giving them titles, instead of power, was a wiser trade off.

~Jebbie. No worry. No problems. Pedinska cares.

But, your gerontologist said: `I fear You just may,

have a weak bladder leak, if you hop on wild rides.

A Merry Go Round makes You dizzy. Pedinska plan?

So, lug XX-big-adult size pamper for colon problem.

"But Mr. Krongard said he believed that ultimately, under a new director and a new set of policies, the agency would find common ground with Mr. Obama.

“The C.I.A.’s no different than any other place,” he said. “Probably 25 percent of the people there really like him, 25 percent don’t like him, and 50 percent are open-minded.”

- - CIA folks (via Mark Mazzetti and Scott Shane)"-- sysprog

It seems to me that it's not up to Obama to find common ground with these people, it's up to them to find it with him. If they can't do that, they should hit the fucking road.

Even the amoral utilitarian argument for waterboarding is an argument that doesn't hold water.

Torture hasn't saved American lives.

On the contrary:

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/12/3/us_interrogator_in_iraq_says_torture

US Interrogator in Iraq Says Torture Policy Has Led to Deaths of Thousands of American Soldiers

We speak with a former special intelligence operations officer who led an interrogations team in Iraq two years ago. His nonviolent interrogation methods led Special Forces to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the head of al-Qaeda in Iraq. He has written a new book, "How to Break a Terrorist: The US Interrogators Who Used Brains, Not Brutality, to Take Down the Deadliest Man in Iraq". The publication date for the book was delayed for six weeks due to the Pentagon’s vetting of it. The soldier wrote it under the pseudonym, Matthew Alexander, for security reasons. He says the US military’s use of torture is responsible for the deaths of thousands of US soldiers by inspiring foreign fighters to kill Americans

- - "Democracy Now!" Wednesday, December 3, 2008

"A. B. Krongard, the C.I.A.’s third-ranking official under Mr. Tenet when the detention and interrogation program was created, called Mr. Brennan a “casualty of war” and said he believed C.I.A. tactics were being second-guessed for political purposes. The demise of Mr. Brennan’s candidacy, Mr. Krongard said, “is a huge loss to the country.”"

Krongard should start packing NOW and shouldn't let the fucking door hit him in the ass!

Political purposes, my ass.

These jerks stole my country's honor and now they claim they're being mistreated?

Bite me, Krongard!

There was John Quincy Adams, son of John Adams. It would be interesting to know whether the American hatred of hereditary rule arose during the presidential election Quincy won.

I though it arose during the term of George III

Cheers,

Cedar Point? I haven't been there in ages, so you will give me a reason to go. You guys get those great french fries and lemonade whilst us girls stand in line.

Roller coaster link @ sig.

Besides a world-famous amusement park (from where we will have to go to the islands), when and if we return, we also have a world-class art museum, a world-class symphony orchestra, and a terrible baseball team in a world-class stadium.

July is a fine month to visit the land o' cleve. And, err, yeah, the river doesn't burn anymore. Have you seen the Olengangy lately? yeck.

~

I am in enough trouble. You cut your nostril hairs,

ask permission to get a day 'pass' to leave thee clinic.

A boss @ UT mental ward say: The Loons retirements,

Red Beet borsch soup like kitchen farms, say no way!

No give freeloaders like us a furlough pass. I wonder?

Maybe YKW got a burr under saddle? Teen chick-pox.

Jebbie. I am sorry for the latent emerging chicken pox.

Eight years of immoral illegal stupidity is more than enough.

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/12/ap_retired_generals_120308/

Obama team meets with anti-torture generals
By Pamela Hess - The Associated Press
Wednesday Dec 3, 2008 17:17:17 EST

WASHINGTON — A dozen retired generals met with President-elect Barack Obama’s top legal advisers Wednesday, pressing their case to overturn seven years of Bush administration policies on detention, interrogation and rendition in the war on terror.

“President-elect Obama has said that Americans do not engage in torture, that we must send a message to the world that America is a nation of laws, and that we as a nation should stand against torture. He believes that banning torture will actually save American lives and help restore America’s moral stature in the world,” said an official close to the transition who asked not to be named to discuss internal matters. “This meeting is timely and very helpful to advancing this work.”

Among those who met with Eric Holder, Obama’s pick to be attorney general, and Greg Craig, tapped to be White House counsel, were Gen. Charles Krulak, a former Marine Corps commandant, and retired Marine Gen. Joseph Hoar, former chief of the Central Command.

Hoar called the meeting “productive.”

“It’s important that the dialogue is going,” Hoar said. “Part of the challenge here is big and philosophical. Part is nuts and bolts. How do you translate the rhetoric of the campaign and the transition period into action?”

The generals would like to see authority rescinded for the CIA to use harsh interrogation methods that go beyond those approved for use by the military, an end to the secret transfer of prisoners to other governments that have a history of torture, and the closing of the U.S. jail at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base.

President Bush vetoed legislation championed by the retired officers that would have held the CIA to the military’s interrogation methods in March.

Obama has criticized the use of torture in interrogating detainees and promised to close Guantanamo Bay’s military prison. The transition team official said no decisions about the detainee policies will be made until after the inauguration and Obama’s full national security and legal teams are in place.

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/12/ap_retired_generals_120308/