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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 12:00 AM

Eric Holder, Jack Quinn and the Rich pardon

It's premature to criticize Obama for his establishment-soothing appointments. But it's just as premature to heap praise on him for those appointments.

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Tuesday, December 2, 2008 01:11 PM

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I had to wiki the mentat's litany. I see I should have said, The spice must flow.

Normally, that makes me think of oil, but in the context of Washington, it has to be either money or bullshit. Don't know which. Both?

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 01:15 PM

Baldie

I agree. This is why (wherein I also agree with you) we must let the spice flow.

Anything to stop the Pentagon's proliferation of those weirding modules.

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 01:17 PM

We have a WINNER!

link at sig

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 01:23 PM

Oh!, Ché Pasa

Is it possible that they are holding out Holder's involvement in the Rich pardon to divert attention from his more recent positions in re Gitmo,. et al?

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 01:39 PM

@Lotus Feet

Now that you're a celebrity ...

You will always be klueless I must confess, unless you spend months of fasting and give up sex, meat, fish and eggs.

Which did you give up?

(bated breath)

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 01:40 PM

@ Lotus Feet

What does Michelle Obama, the high school she attended, or improving higher education have to do with Eric Holder and Rich?

Nothing, right?

So why do you bring her into this? She is Obama's wife and not appointed to his staff or cabinet.

Or are you striving for utter irrelevancy?

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 02:07 PM

Only a Republican (Nixon) could normalize relations with China without being branded an appeaser.

Only a Democrat (Clinton) could reform welfare without being branded a "Meanspirited Wepubwickan."

Now is Obama's opportunity to also make a huge change in the way we educate children. What infrastructure problems compare with the hundreds of thousands of urban teens who can not read beyond a 5th grade level, hanging out, having babies, doing crime? We are challenging the UAW to get real. Why not the teachers' unions?

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 02:22 PM

OT: US stands by refusal to sign cluster bomb ban

The United States said Tuesday it will refrain this week from signing a treaty in Norway to ban cluster bombs, because the document is too broad and endangers US soldiers.

Some 100 countries will ban the use of such weapons when their delegates sign the Convention on Cluster Munitions on Wednesday in Oslo but major producers like the United States, China and Russia are shunning the pact. ...

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/US_stands_by_refusal_to_sign_cluste_12022008.html or click sig

Seems that our country's Dept. of War needs those "kid killer" weapons and no one in the old administration or the incoming administration will object.

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 02:32 PM

Nothing premature about the praise

Much like the FISA decision (which ended my campaign donations for Obama) and the Biden pick (which I called a mistake at the time), if the Andrea Mitchels, David Ignatius and Fred Hiatts of the political establishment are neutralized while Obama develops his policy agenda, that's just plain brilliant. As you suggest, we'll have to wait and see what that agenda actually is but it would surely be DOA if popularly opposed by The Palace Press. By default, the appointments are successful if they are lauded by the vacuous adolescents who make public opinion and, ultimately, public policy. Nothing good can be accomplished without, at least, their acquiescence.

You, of all people, should know that.

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 02:32 PM

not a troll, Jebbie, but a victim

My diagnosis of Lotus Feet is that he is suffering from acute Limburgh's disease as a result of long-term inhalation of right-wing talking points. In this syndrome, the critical faculties have atrophied, with corresponding cortical shrinkage. Total incomprehension of how things really work is just one common symptom that may be observed.

In my opinion, nothing can be done.

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 02:35 PM

@heru-ur

Your link provides no evidence for this statement:

Seems that our country's Dept. of War needs those "kid killer" weapons and no one in the old administration or the incoming administration will object.

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 02:42 PM

@Baldie

Is Obama going to grow scales and a 300-foot body

That would be awesome

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 02:44 PM

Oh!, Baldie McEagle

Re: Zoltan Dingleberry/Lotus Feet

(s)he is both hopeless and clueless but definately not a victim.

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 02:45 PM

Lest we forget...

... though I'm sure it's not out of the minds of any here, with regards to the gushing praise for W's "adult" leadership on Security and Defense, these mature experienced individuals not only led a ramping up of US imperial militarism and eradication of privacy rights at home, but also disregarded (willfully?) the numerous indicators that preceded the largest terrorist attack ever on US soil... Whoops!

Condoleeza apparently figured that the whole "Bin Laden determined to strike in the US" memo was irrelevant since it was composed in Crayola; it was clearly written by some bratty children leftover in the NSA from the Clinton years! Can't let such foolishness get in the way of adult business, like draping marble breasts to eliminate the rampant indecent exposure threat posed by our domestic judicial statuary.

While I'm at it, in light of ondelette's post, I'd love to see what Glenn can dig up with regards to the Gates pardon. Some have said that the incoming administration was throwing a bone to the left, with Brennan's (presumably forced) withdrawal from the running for Security/Intelligence positions coming suspiciously in tandem with the confirmation that Gates would be the Defense nominee. I don't know just how tasty Brennan's bone was, but I can't imagine it's tasty enough to preoccupy and deflect critics of Gates for the next month and a half.

Holder seems most problematic with regards to his lockstep adhesion to draconian War On Drugs policy and his choice to arbitrate/bargain down the cost of human life on behalf of the warlords at Chiquita, but these problems won't be a problem with congressional Republicans.

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 03:00 PM

Eagle

Your link provides no evidence for this statement:

Seems that our country's Dept. of War needs those "kid killer" weapons and no one in the old administration or the incoming administration will object.

-- Baldie McEagle

The link is what it is.

The part you complain about is my interpretation of all information that I have received from many sources. However, time will tell. What would you wager that the Obama administration will fight this horrible affront to humanity's children?

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 04:04 PM

heru

I won't be wagering anything, but your link did say this:

In 2006, Obama voted in the US Senate to ban the use of cluster munitions in heavily populated areas, but in the end the motion was rejected.

Tuesday, December 2, 2008 04:05 PM

Jebbie. I wish I'd NO never, never never see Lotus Feet on your silly wog-bog Left, or Right, Silence, O, Love always,

~

I saw those bald, bare, dimpled, smelling feet like that.

They were dipped in red jello in an Ohio courtroom bar.

Thee gal was wearing a tutu ballet skirt with no leotard.

P- was shy, cute, sitting atop Saint Jebs MacBook fat lap.

P- was a hopping pretty as a plover. Red Toe Nail Clover.

Perfume. LapWing Lady P- asked for silence, to sit quietly.

Red (toe) Tail Hawk sing, and sniffs the golden rod flowers.

Plead for world peace, sit atop laptop, smell pink rose petal.

Ay, no lamb chops. No cash or cheap holiday, holy moment.

Perfumed flowers. Bouquet's tied with thin gold strand cord.

People are wrapped, precious, interwoven gift, single flower.

Nature's Bouquet is composed of individuals. Endive? Salads.

Nature's Pan- invisible cord is concealed from a human view.

Maybe not visible to the base, yet, experienced as wonderful.

Jebbie, some things like that? Time to practice with a ballerina.

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