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Mumbai, the NYT's revisionism, and lessons not learned

The Times' Editorial Page blames the Bush administration for "blessing" the military coup against Hugo Chavez without mentioning that it did the same. Why does that matter?

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  • Friday, November 28, 2008 02:52 PM

    @ Kitt

    Your original post to me mentioned little of what I actually had to say. Would you care to address my point on how inadequate education results in people who cannot take a stance of reasonable doubt to the maunderings of the media and politicians? Noooo! You apparently would not, being to busy playing preemptive defense attorney for Obama.

    You seem to believe that millions (or some large number) voted on "faith" where as I believe that a relative few voted on faith. So, as I wrote in my previous reply, I think that the case against "leftists" "voting on faith", and now being angry or disappointed about Obama because they supposedly expected someone other than who he is, is a way overblown assumption.

    Ever since Obama has begun to choose his cabinet and staff there have been people who supported him expressing their dissatisfaction/disappointment here at Salon. Others resist this saying things like "I trust Obama" and "I have faith in Obama." Indeed, some of these are people who expressed faith/belief in the past. Need I add that those people have archives here at Salon (as do you).

    I never specified a number. If you will actually read my original post, you will see that I was referring particularly to those people in general (both Bush supporters and Obama faith believers) who could not seem to apply the fine skill of reserving judgment when there was not the necessary information upon which to judge.

    Now we have more information: It is a top priority for us to stamp out Al Queda once and for all. Barack Obama said that on 60 Minutes.

    Now, as far as I am concerned, you can either address my intial post about education or you can tell me why we must get Bin Laden as a method of stamping out Al Queda when in fact the methods and beliefs which Bin Laden espouses has spread to most of the Muslim world from Indonesia to Turkey. Yet somehow, we must -- as a way to get Bin Laden -- re-engage with the Taliban, infuriate Pakistan, and do nation building (spread Democracy) in Afghanistan?

    I would dearly love to know why we must do this? No one has yet given me a coherent reason.

    Spreading Democracy (capital D for democracy connected specifically to our uniquely American approach which is wedded to capitalism) is just the biggest meme in the world that GWB adopted concerning Iraq once it was clear that there were no significant WMDs.

    I DO NOT believe that we should have faith in Obama. I suggest that we let him choose his Cabinet and then see which way things go once he takes office, but I'll be damned if I am going to suspend my critical faculties just because Wow! We finally have a Democrat for president.

    I am not "political." I don't think the victory of one party -- the one I happen to prefer" -- necessarily means that Obama is going to be the anti-Bush.

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