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'Um go to Florida and chew dead oysters, fish nets, fish tackle, rusted hook lures, gold teeth fillings, rubber boat tires, outboard propellors, washed up whales, cruise boats tour guide crews, seaweed, sail boats, tons of salty rocks, oil slicks spilt, sand dunes, child dirty sandy beach diapers, shade umbrellas, pelicans, seagulls, walruses, sea-dogs, plastic pails, shovels, castle molds, paranoid lawyers, revered rabi who sneaks BBQ spareribs, Pedinska and Jebbie as they do cartwheels, empty beer cans, winos (Jeb Bush), boardwalks, t-shirts, and every retired grandparent,

O bankers, beach balls, podiatrist, orthodontist, footprints on a sad beach, sea shells, mermaids, #-2- pencils, fez hats, matzo balls, hearse drivers, limos, yellow cabbies, golf ball, putters, 9- irons, sand wedges, dirty Q- tips, pig bristled brushes, toothpicks, m*m's, snobs, naked sunbathers, bathrobes, and chocolate cream pie. Cardiologist, allergist, vegetarians, apple sause, and sand doodles.

O s.t.h.u. okay. immature commenters.

David Hicks, who spent over five years in Gitmo, early this week made a public plea to the Australian Federal Police (AFP) asking that they not renew a control order on his activites, which limits his movements and is due to expire on Dec 31. A public pressure campaign was organised to support his request, but it proved unnecessary as the AFP quickly agreed to his request.

Hicks, the only person ever convicted (on a plea deal) at the Gitmo courts, says the control order has made it impossible toe get on with his life, and the media here have characterized this as his "sixth year in detention". Hicks remains mentally fragile and says he is still not ready to tell the Australian public his full Gitmo story.

Meanwhile, the AFP are facing new pressure on another front. The Australian government has just received a report into the AFP's disgraceful treatment of Dr. Mohamed Haneef, who was wrongfully detained as a terrorist in the lead-up to the last election here. There are renewed calls for the head of the AFP to be sacked.

Keep the thread serious. okay. It's supper time.

I'll glide down the hill on the rotten skateboard.

I paste. Hope no glued swastikas decals stickers.

Who asks:Do they [Common Dreams] have some sort of ideological belief that refuses to recognize copyright ownership or something?

You already know this, but as a libertarian I frequently bump into 'tarians and anarchists, of either left or right persuasion, who utterly reject all intellectual pty protection. Now certainly, copyright can be abused, and has been -- it should not last past a writer's/artist's expected lifetime, if even that long. And fair use should be liberally applied.

But there are those folk who think my original idea and/or the way I state it, yours, or anyone else's, should just be ripe for taking. I part company with many confreres on this issue.

can also be found at Alternet.

Comments seem to be uncensored there.

http://www.alternet.org/audits/107666/this_is_change_20_hawks%2C_clintonites_and_neocons_to_watch_for_in_obama%27s_white_house/?page=entire

http://scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/leon-boumediene-order-11-20-2008.pdf

http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/judge-orders-five-detainees-freed/

The judge, in an unusual added comment, suggested to senior government leaders that they forgo an appeal of his ruling on freeing the five prisoners. While conceding that the government had a right to appeal that part of his ruling, Leon commented that he, too, had “a right to appeal” to leaders of the Justice Department, Central Intelligence Agency and other intelligence agencies, and his plea was that they look at the evidence regarding the five he was ordering released.

“Seven years of waiting for our legal system to give them an answer to their legal question is enough,”

he commented.

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Near the close of the oral announcement of his decision, the judge cautioned observers not to read any wider effect into his ruling. “Few if any of the others will be factually like” the Bosnians’ case, he said, adding: “Nobody should be lulled into a false sense that all of the government’s cases will look like this one.”

The judge also added that “there comes a time when the desire to resolve novel legal questions…pales in comparison to effecting a just result based on the state of the record.”

It took nearly an hour for the judge to announce his ruling, because it was being translated, sentence by sentence, into arabic so that the six detainees could keep up with it via a telephone link with the U.S. Naval prison at Guatanamo Bay.

- - scotusblog

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Scott Horton at Harper's:

http://harpers.org/archive/2008/11/hbc-90003877

The hallmark of this regime is that it never admits to its own error or lawlessness. Prepare for an immediate appeal.

- - Scott Horton at Harper's

That excerpt from SCOTUSBLOG was from an article by reporter Lyle Denniston.

Are the men that did this to these prisoners, now deemed innocent, will someday return home to the US.

The ones that ordered/orchestrated it, are contemptible. I imagine they have not been changed by their experience.

But what about the other guys, the soldiers, medics, guys that delivered food, etc. that have been exposed to this kind of crap. How will they return? What have we done to them? Let alone the people that were there trying to change things. The JAGS, the ministers, etc. that witnessed it upfront and have tried to stop it.

I read a story years ago about a very Christian, from Alabama I think, military guard that kept trying to give small hints of kindness to prisoners at Gitmo. The story hurt to read, I think the story was told by a released inmate. I worry about him, too.

I'm even more disgusted by the embrace of Lieberman than I was before.

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/November/08-opa-1035.html

"We are pleased with the Court’s decision affirming the determination that Bensayah Belkacem is an enemy combatant and may be held during this armed conflict. [...] As the Court requested, we are promptly reviewing the decision with respect to the other five petitioners. [...]"

- - Peter A. Carr, Acting Director of Public Affairs, USDOJ