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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
You're nicer than me. You praised, I googled. "Festival of idiocy" returns lots and lots of hits.
. There are very real philosophical, cultural, and political differences between these rival political cultures (New England, Midlands, and South) that were identified by Alexis de Toqueville in the 1830's.
Are you not aware that de Toquiville has been exposed by scholars as a complete fabricator? That, in fact, he wrote most of his travel diaries while sitting in the bathtub, drinking brandy?
I would cool it on the de Toqueville. Other people may not be as nice about it as I am.
This is the first chance I've had to sit down and really read your comment. Forgive me. They never lack for substance, and they are undoubtedly the result of your careful observation, and a knowledgeable understanding of the legislative process. Your insights deserve careful consideration.
Please note, you need never apologize to me. What you had written earlier was perfectly understandable, albeit densely layered. Still, it wasn't impenetrable. Like Calc III, it required some thought. You might know, however, I gave up after Calc III and topology sails right over my head. You go there, and ondelette will have to interpret.
When, I began this comment, I thought I had a question about something you'd written. Having performed the exercise of writing out the question, I see you've already answered it.
A bankrupt agenda that to-date, the rank and file of the Party refuse to repudiate in any meaningful way, because Party Loyalty and its campaign-financing power drive Congress, not the Constitution or the people.
Got it. And, it seems that this state of affairs is fed, promoted, and supported by party loyal voters, isn't it? It would be difficult, I think, to maintain that party loyalty in Congress by congressional members, unless there were unquestioning loyalty among the party's voters.
Thanks, again.
So basically "progressive" is like liberal, only with a good "fuck the poor" thrown in for good measure. That's what I thought. Oh and screw minorities, too. No mention of civil rights there, not even gay marriage ("Out of wedlock marriage" I can't even begin to comprehend, it's too complicated for me.)
No.
I stopped there because I didn't wish to lay out paragraph after paragraph of problems that need to be addressed. These things I assumed you knew.
BTW, screw all that "decent" and "access". Who pays for the health care? Are you so progressive you can't say that.
If you're trying to piss me off, you're succeeding. I didn't use words like "universal" in order to avoid moronic debates over things like socialism. It should be clear, however, that by "decent" and "access," I mean just that--the human language of "decent" and "access" which means, to most of us, that actual humans can seek medical care that won't drive them into bankruptcy. What tool is used to assure that (universal access, for example) is secondary to me.
Let's see, what else did you write that irritated the shit out of me? Oh, yes: "Progressive is turning out to be just what I thought. It's liberalism for people who are afraid of conservatives and only care about themselves. And 'ridiculously lethal and expensive wars'? If you know of another kind, please let the US government know about it. It could save many lives."
Derbig, I don't know, you might be simply an asshole or you might be encouraging me to define my terms. One thing's for sure: your attitude doesn't encourage discourse/conversation; your aggressiveness encourages only aggressiveness in return. Is that what you want? I know I don't.
In most other countries, especially those with parliamentary system, campaigning lasts only six to eight weeks. It is short, intense, and final.
No wonder Hitler got into office, with a system like that!
...it's all smoke and mirrors, baloney and crap! Why would you want to rock the boat of an excluysive, elitist club that has allowed you into their fold with such wide open arms? Surely no one here is naive enough to believe that the political class in America rule for anyone else except themselves? Get a grip or perhaps get yer hands off it yanks! You are all subject ot the same bullshit that any other so called "democracy" is which is essentially a mediocre choice between brand "A" or brand "B" which contain exactly the same ingredients, are manufatured in the same factory and are only different in their labelling. Big deal this year the label happens to be black! Of course this is in a way an attempt to defuse the oncoming revoloution from the grassroots of Americans who, having voted for change but will just get brand "B" and it's glossy new packaging. Having been subjected to the rubbish emanating from your advertising morons for decades now, not many, if any, of you have the perception to see the lies and spin until it's too late. Oops! was probabaly the most uttered word that Bush supportetrs who regretted their choice have voiced to themselves for the past 8 mournful years. Democracy is predicated on the adage that you can fool many of the people most of the time. Obama has fooled you all as did Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Kennedy, Nixon et al. Why do you think the rest of the world bemoans you Americans so loudly? It's because you are the most armed nation on earth with the least intelligence in using those arms. A country of fools and gullible "Pollyannas" just waiting to be sucker-punched once again. A good dose of cynical skepticism may do you all the world of good but unfortunately I reckon you would all rather watch Disneyland! Or perhaps you are all just living in frggin Disneyland because your sense of reality is very different to those who actually live in it. Anyway how can you call a country where the majority of idiots don't cherish their vote enough to use it "democratic"? Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors.
Spoken like a true progressive, Timothy! But it is interesting that you get angry at me asking what are, after all, only the most basic and natural questions. Who pays for the health care?
Under what provocation, or to acheive what end, will we fight wars? To what extent are you prepared to sacrifice what you have so that others may live?
And what are the principles of progressivism? Again, what are the principles of progressivism. At what point does progressivism draw a line and say: "You may not pass!"
If you think these are unfair questions I beg you to think again. Those are the questions which will be asked.
On what things will progressives not compromise?
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
219 Democrats and one Republican join in favor of the legislation, which passed by a narrow margin
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Salon headlines in your mailbox
