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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
It is unlikely that the sight & sound of politicians truly fighting for different agendas disgusts most Americans. Rather, it is all the fake, "partisan" Kabuki "reported" in the newsmedia that disgusts them. Real politics is and should be a contact sport played on a public field, but at present it's nothing of the sort. (Holly McLachlan)
Everything you wrote is true and has been commented on for a long time in various places. You write it well.
However, there is a big reason that we will not see the knock-down drag-out fights in our system. We would then see the utter corrupt nature of our democracy as one side tries to take from the other side via the awesome force of government power. Or both sides taking from the poor as they normally do. (the real poor never have a side -- only charlatans claiming them)
No, I do not think the organized gangs called political parties would look very pretty in the long run if they truly were up front with their agenda.
Went to school with Salazar (undergrad). Applauded when he won the race for the Senate. Now, not so much. I've been disappointed in him for awhile.
At least my conscience is clean.
Keep watching, and let the inevitable slowly gnaw away at you.
For the record, I'm still nursing a small spark of hope about Obama. But Jeez, Louise, Kitt, how many times must you be fooled before you qualify as a twit?
Hmm. I don't know enough of Holder, but this is interesting.
He became deputy attorney general in 1997 under Janet Reno and was viewed as a centrist on most law enforcement issues, though he has sharply criticized the secrecy and the expansive views of executive power advanced by the Bush Justice Department.
From the link to Isikoff provided by awklib earlier in the thread,
http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/poweringup/archive/2008/11/18/obama-s-attorney-general.aspx
What I find creepy/disturbing is the comments following the article. The nutjobs are coming out of the woodwork.
I like this one (yours too BTW):
they don't punish lieberman. we should punish them.by whoisjohngalt (Tue Nov 18 2008 14:11:30 GMT-0500 (EST))
i suggest a netroots boycott of the Georgia Senate runoff. When Martin (unfortuante colateral damage) gets 13% of the vote because of a progressive internet boycott of the election maybe they will get a F@*CING CLUE. they need to SEE that their spineless anti-voter actions have consequences, starting NOW and not just read/hear and uncerimoniously ignore our complaints.
I think this is a great idea. I mean it. Let Martin lose by 60 points.
But Jeez, Louise, Kitt, how many times must you be fooled before you qualify as a twit?-- normbreyfogle
This coming from someone who has voted for Nader, what, Three times?
I think this is a great idea. I mean it. Let Martin lose by 60 points.
-- Wabanatta_3
I'm all in.
Bipartisanship between house + executive = No prosecution of Bush Administration crimes.
There should be enough bipartisanship to pass legislation, but it does interfere with the separation of powers. After all, how do you exercise your authority to prosecute the executive without irritating his party?
There has been too much bipartisanship and complicity within the democratic leadership and the Bush administration.
Pelosi should go as well as Harry Reid.
"This coming from someone who has voted for Nader, what, Three times?
-- Kitt"
Yes, and who still has a clear conscience.
Have a nice day.
Tutu?
Oh.
clownsense?
Let Martin lose by 60 points.
And if Martin did lose, do you honestly believe that the Dem leadership would credit the netroots?
The explanation would be that many voters that supported Obama didn't come out and vote when Obama wasn't on the ballot.
The Repub leadership would say that conservatives came out in droves to repudiate the Dems having control and this is a mandate for Repubs to go harder to the Right. The last is what they glean no matter what is happening.
I can't stomach supporting Chambliss, but that being said, I just ignored the request from the DFA to help Martin with a donation. They probably should have put that request out yesterday when I still had a little hope left.
Democratic leader says party won’t turn leftBy Mike Soraghan
Posted: 11/18/08 12:04 AM [ET]
As the House prepares to elect its leaders, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is challenging the idea that the expanded Democratic majority and its leaders will make a hard left turn.
“For the first time in decades, we are a true national majority party—and if we want to stay that way, we must govern like one,” Hoyer (D-Md.) is to say in a speech today at the National Press Club, according to excerpts of his remarks obtained by The Hill.
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“The 33 new Members of Congress coming to Washington to swell our side of the aisle are pragmatic, not dogmatic,” Hoyer is to say. “They were elected on promises of bipartisanship and fiscal discipline. They were elected, quite simply, to solve problems, not further politicize Washington.”
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/party-wont-turn-left-dem-leader-says-2008-11-18.html
I'm a Senator/ I gotta raise $10,000 a day every day I'm in Washington/ I ain't getting it in South Central/ I'm gettin it in Beverly Hills/ So I'm votin for them in the Senate the way they want me to/ and-and-and I'm sending them my bills...
-Sen. Jay Billington Bulworth
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118798/
Glenn, if you are so sick of all that brazen bipartisanship and the total lack of spine in the democratic party, why don't you team up with likeminded bloggers and such and start a new democratic party that actually acts like one. Not necessarily much different policy-wise, just honest. You shouldn't be a correction to the democrats - but a replacement.
He became deputy attorney general in 1997 under Janet Reno and was viewed as a centrist on most law enforcement issues, though he has sharply criticized the secrecy and the expansive views of executive power advanced by the Bush Justice Department
Yet another Clinton retread.
Is Obama this insecure? Does he not trust his own judgment about new blood and new faces, and new experience, around him?
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
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