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Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:00 AM

Post-partisan harmony vs. the rule of law

A clear consensus is emerging: Obama shouldn't jeopardize all the important things he has to do by investigating crimes committed by Bush officials.

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Thursday, November 13, 2008 01:49 PM

@Jebbie---NO NO NO!

"I sincerely hope you are not equating whatever crimes Clinton was impeached for with the litany of deeds which might be unearthed (some of which we know something about) through a Serious investigation by Serious people."

In no way did I intend such an equation!!!

Badly worded perhaps, but my point was that I don't want the waste of time, energy, resources, and the inherent diviseness that festered during the impeachment process. Unnecessary and bad for all given the level of alleged "crimes" involved.

The "litany of deeds" re: the current administration is on a whole other plane. I want those deeds brought to light. If that can't include jail time, I at least want the truth.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 01:50 PM

@GG

"oh not, not even the most potent brainwashing techniques, applied to the most mindless and subservient population, could ever convince them of that."

Right.

So, you make them do it to themselves.

Works for soap, cell phones and Cialis; they finally figured out it works for subservience, as well.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 01:51 PM

@ondelette

I do recall (all too well), and I agree with you. See my follow-up post to Jebbie ;)

Thursday, November 13, 2008 01:51 PM

Sorry, heru-ur and Jebbie...

Obama doesn't have any ponies or kittens :(

He does have a couple of Unicorns however, since he is in the business of making dreams a reality.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 01:52 PM

No! Then what is to stop the next Bush

So, dad rapes all his 50 daughters for eight years but for the sake of family harmony we'll give daddy a pass. Did I get it right? I think that's what you just said? Right?

So what about the next Bush. Oh I forgot there politicians they make laws they do have to worry about breaking them there

the goverment it's only you and I that go to prison, they don't even have to pay for a lawyer, medical care, a car, the list goes on much less buy there own gas. Why there above the law sorry I forgot. My mistake never mind.

So the worst president in history gets to walk and we'll even build him a library to hold all those redacted papers. I know Americans have a attention spam of 5 seconds and are the most gulable people on the planet but ,,,,, just shut up and sit down. Investigate, and indite those that broke the law or what

I won't pay taxes? That would get me locked up for sure.

Bush should go on trial for teason as well as most of his admin,. That's not as bad as cheating on tax's is it teason, tax evasion geeeee which is worse. You are,,,,, something I don't know exactly what but I'll think of something.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 01:53 PM

Oh!, Jebbie

Love your blog.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 01:53 PM

Jebbie, Apologies

I'd forgotten about shooter (a blessing, that).

Does Taco Bell have Mexicans on the menu now?

When me and the boys were there, we all ordered Quesidilla Mexicana!, so I guess that's what we ate. Those Minutemen have monstrous appetites.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 01:56 PM

Glenn, re: Brainwashing

In an address at Columbia University on 14 April 2006, John Pilger said:

During the Cold War, a group of Russian journalists toured the United States. On the final day of their visit, they were asked by their hosts for their impressions. 'I have to tell you,' said their spokesman, 'that we were astonished to find after reading all the newspapers and watching TV, that all the opinions on all the vital issues were by and large, the same. To get that result in our country, we imprison people, we tear out their fingernails. Here, you don’t have that. What’s the secret? How do you do it?'
Thursday, November 13, 2008 01:56 PM

I wonder...

...how the Madwoman of Chaillot would handle this?

Thursday, November 13, 2008 02:04 PM

whoa there, PDA

you have a problem with natural male enhancement?

Thursday, November 13, 2008 02:09 PM

@Chris

That's Enzyte. Ask shooter.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 02:12 PM

Bush's various motives for torturing are obvious, NotOrbitBoy

He approved torture because he and Cheney wanted to torture. Within days of 9/11 Cheney talked cryptically of the need to go to "The Dark Side." Being seen as torturers signaled to the post-9/11-fearful US citizenry that we were being well taken care of, that we were being protected.

Taking this path also enabled Bush and Cheney to assert the inapplicability of international law to the US government (one of their favorite themes) and provided them a cynically evil playing field on which they could play their "unitary executive" game, flagrantly flouting congressional and judicial oversight.

Altogether, these various assaults on international law and the US Constitution were to have helped Bush, Cheney, and Rove continue consolidation of useful political power, even probably setting the stage for the eventual use of illegal coercive abusive techniques against rebellious US citizens.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 02:16 PM

catamite

I wonder... how the Madwoman of Chaillot would handle this?

She would've said "oui," or perhaps "tout de suite," or maybe just wept before laughing. Did I ever mention my darker moments?

Thursday, November 13, 2008 02:22 PM

--Timothy3

But how far down does the tunnel from your basement go? 'Cause I doubt we can get the whole damned bunch to Paris, and of course Danny Kaye is gone now...

Thursday, November 13, 2008 02:22 PM

Some hope

I have for some time now believed that it will take the first truly shocking revelation (or maybe a few) about Bush era law-breaking to finally force the craven Washington Media to make the right choice between doing their job vs keeping the peace in the Company Town. According to Sy Hersh and several others there are many waiting for Bush to leave town before they feel safe enough to come forward with tales to peel the media eyelids back.

Wish I had time to say more, as media dysfunction, and Glenn's coverage of it, are always my favorite topics here. A combination of factors have contributed to a certain inertia in our political media. For now the pols to seem to have their way. When the realities of the Bush era start to bleed around the many tourniquets Cheney's been placing all over town, expect the media to awaken from its self-serving slumber. Some of the utter sellouts will try to keep the lid on, but this will be simply too much. People are champing at the bit to talk.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 02:24 PM

catamite

But how far down does the tunnel from your basement go?

China, I think. At least that's how I get my order of potstickers.

Thursday, November 13, 2008 02:29 PM

and

The way its supposed to work--when the media finally starts to fulfill its Constitutional function, and the public finally knows the realities of Bush era lawlessness, Obama and even Congress(!) will be forced to do something. If the media truly does its job, public awarenbess forces govt to act.

I guess we'll see.

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