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"So an Obama presidency will rid us of the Goldberg's, Kristol's, etc. in this country? Electing him stops them?"
Greenwald :
An election which removes their party from power and powerfully repudiates what they've done removes them and people who think like them from power and humiliates their movement.
Only to be replaced by progressive idealogs with the same manners. Like I said, the shallow thinking Olberman is now our talking head - where is Chomsky? We've seen the Democratic leadership, they are as hypocritical and morally bankrupt as the Republicans they've replaced - they just aren't as evil so it's such a big deal. They do their torturing in private, they don't politicize the justice department or other government agencies, their cronyism is less pronounced and so the government agencies tend to run better than under Republican hands. Look to Kucinich for what real outrage looks like, and you'll notice that he is out of step with the Democratic party. I would call Kucinich a moderate - he isn't sitting in congress naked or self-flagellating to gain attention for his cause - no, he is staying within the well-defined bounds of constitutional proceedure to try to redress the wrongs done on America. That is the working of a moderate, a radical would be shaving his head, interrupting the workings of the house at every opportunity and disrupting government, trying to force people to confront the idea that we have war criminals in the White House. I am not advocating this form of action, I'm just pointing out that the most activist Democrat in congress is, at best, a moderate. The rest are, by and large, conservative in the sense that they do not wish to disturb the status quo. And these do-nothing congresspeople are lauded by a sycophantic chorus of progressive bloggers. I don't count Greenwald among them, but I don't share his optimism that the damage can be undone from within. How can you hope to match the Democratic money machine? I will not criticize further, because at least he is doing something, something he believes will make the country a better place. I find myself agreeing more with Chomsky :
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,583454,00.html
and I don't think the Democrats will willingly change their ways.