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ProGrocker (October 6, 2008 02:31 PM ):
PG: "I see no alternative to another 9/11. Please, fellow progressives, tell me what other option the NeoCons have left? There are not enough rigged voting machines to pull off another coup."
"Maybe someone needs to talk me down on this one."
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What makes you think there aren't enough rigged voting machines to pull off another coup?
From the deposition of Stephen Spoonamore,in which he admits to the theft of the Ohio vote in 2004:
Any time all information is directed to a single computer for consolidation, it is possible, and in fact likely, that single computer will exploit the information for some purpose.
In the case of Ohio 2004, the only purpose I can conceive for sending all county vote tabulations to a GOP managed Man-in-the-Middle site in Chattanooga BEFORE sending the results onward to the Sec. of State, would be to hack the vote at the MIM.
IN REGARD TO THE DIEBOLD SYSTEMS, Formerly Global, DESI and now called Premier.
In my opinion, there is NO POSSIBLE WAY to make a secure touch screen voting system. None. Secure systems are predicated on establishing securely the identity of every user of the system. Voting is predicated on being anonymous. It is impossible to have a system that does both.
It is possible to design relatively secure optical scan machines, but even these can be hacked in even the best of cases. In the case of optical scan you have the ability to recount manually the paper ballot itself, and the ability to spot check the machines for errors against a sample of hand recounting.
Even considering no secure system for touch screen machines can be designed, ever, the Diebold system is riddled with exploitable errors.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Deposition-by-Spoonamore-A-by-Stephen-Spoonamore-080919-58.html
I know that's not much comfort, but it's the best I can do and remain honest.