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....for clearing the room of the swooning Victorian spinsters. Porn is a huge and profitable industry, with many customers (but few advocates, obviously...) and is a path, for certain young people, both male and female, to make a lot of money, based not on what they have upstairs, but the staircase leading there. It has ever been thus.
While I myself have never seen porn, I have a friend who has, and she assures me that the "actors" seem to be having fun.
Such is not the case with the victims of US-sponsored, sexually-tinged torture.
Was this, or was this not, the point of Glenn's post?
You just don't understand. Government agents are supposed to have a monopoly on fiction. Like, the line "we never use torture" or "humiliation is in the eye of the beholder."
Private individuals aren't allowed to simulate abuse: government officials would be offended. Someone might think that non-police-state entrepreneurs were imposing real abuse without the proper authority. That would undermine the credibility of the Most Powerful Nation On Earth.
Government hates competition.
Good to you, my hope is you catch whopper flounders, and reel much blessing.
John Baca is visiting. He's half deaf from a grenade blast to the tummy. He's John Baca, the famed steel pot, helmet flopper.
He say huh? huh? huh? all day.
He's going to a new place too.
He had a Gradey-White Boat. Baca never sticks it out for long on one interest. One adventure leads him on another whim. That's not a criticism, and who can find time for all the healthy things that lure and of our Interest?
John Baca says `Julian is the new Green Acres USA for me? A Apple Harvest Festival is coming t Julian California this Fall. `Baca has had a interest in Eco-Agriculture and then fishes, and then marriage and then back bachelorhood.
Fickle? A way to not get jarred and pickled?
A believe stuffing a grenade under a pot hemet, boom, brain cell went sky high? Fried brain.
`Back to Porn heads in DC.
Maybe the DoJ etc., can `hit` www.acresUSA.com/?. ACRES gives away a free farm magazine.
Prison food will nauseate inmates. Ingrates can read and organize a backyard prison plot? If tey o to garden while behind bars, take a garden hoe, dig under the fence to make a clean get-away prison escape? Go fishing with Jim Montague. Cook Haibut flat fish. Chatter away.
Dump all rotten fish-head stinky lawyers overboard into the marine sea! huh. Dumb. Deaf
But that all pales in comparison to some porn guy. I guess the DOJ had it right, hunh.
But it was Glenn who introduced the porn comparison.
Are you saying that torture is somehow worse when the person being tortured is 15 or 16?
If something is wrong to be done to one when one is 15, is it more or less wrong when one is 36?
Look back at this thread. It was Glenn who mentioned consenting adults.
So no, ondelette, I am not going to let you make this only about torture.
Glenn has written about torture many times. Now he introduces this new element by comparison. Therefore, it makes sense to compare. Can you not answer the question that I posed about the age of consent -- or are you just afraid to go there?
Give my regards to John Baca. We can't do flounder, I think it is on the overfished list. But then, almost everything is on the list these days.
Can you not answer the question that I posed about the age of consent -- or are you just afraid to go there?-- AKA Smith
The "age of consent" is a legal term. There is no argument or disagreement about what the age of consent legally is. Your opinion or anyone's opinion about the morality or logic or what have you has no bearing on that fact. How you or anyone feels about the propriety of the age of consent and how useful or unreasonable or not that it is has nothing to do with Glenn's points in this post. At least that is how I see it.
just question.
DARPA On Your MindApr 5, 2007 ... Think your brain is being controlled or disrupted by the Pentagon? You risk being called a nut, but the notion is not so far-fetched. ...
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There is a very sad article in the San Antonio News yesterday that describes a family's reaction to finding out that their son was likely tortured by his Iraqi captors after being kidnapped in an ambush in retaliation for the rape of a "14-year-old Iraqi girl" in a case in which "U.S. soldiers... have testified they took turns raping the girl." The soldier's father is then quoted regarding his view of the possibility of the Iraqi government trying the suspects in his son's death:
"While Army officials have vowed to work with the Iraqi government to prosecute the suspects, Charles Meunier said “that’s BS in my book” if they plan to let the Iraqis try them for political reasons. “They’ll just write it off as part of war,” he said. “Well, that’s not a part of war. You don’t do the atrocities that they did to other human beings.”"
The article goes on to say that the father is "also bitter over a 6 1/2-hour delay in communications surveillance that occurred three days into the search [for his son in Iraq.]. While some Republicans have blamed the holdup on federal rules on eavesdropping, Democrats blame the delay on inept wrangling by legal experts in the Bush administration and difficulty reaching then-Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, to give oral consent to begin surveillance."
So "some Republicans" blame the soldier's capture not on the events pictured in the photos Glenn showed, or on the rape of a 14 year old girl by U.S. soldiers but on "federal rules on eavesdropping."
They no longer even need to "round up the usual suspects;" they just blame those pesky federal eavesdropping rules.
The article gets even more absurd when it quotes "a retired Army officer and director of the Center for Terrorism Law at St. Mary’s University" saying that "if the suspects are linked to al-Qaida, they fit the definition Congress set in 2006 of “enemy combatants,” and could be taken to the U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay... which disposes of cases much faster than a federal court."
Apparently there is a "rocket docket" in Gitmo as they aren't encumbered by those pesky federal rules, that NYT article today that says "none of the scores of cases brought by detainees have been resolved by any judge" notwithstanding.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/Family_fears_son_knew_real_horror_of_war.html
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
219 Democrats and one Republican join in favor of the legislation, which passed by a narrow margin
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
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