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Saturday, October 4, 2008 12:00 AM

A country in shambles, under GOP rule

Efforts to blame Democrats for the country's deep woes assume deep stupidity on the part of the glorified Regular Voter.

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Sunday, October 5, 2008 02:01 AM

Northwestwoods

I 100% agree about the media surrogates, pundits and talk show hosts. I was referring to the sheep that they dupe into calling and writing with these smears. Some of them have got to be too stupid and ignorant to understand that they're being used. There can't be millions of liars out there on any given issue. Most of them are likely just useful idiots for the right.

As Lincoln famously said, you can food some of the people all of the time...

Sunday, October 5, 2008 02:11 AM

Debonair73

Dude, two pieces of advice:

1 - Learn to use the carriage return on your keyboard. It's your friend.

2 - Stop reading crap books put out by Regnery and listening to the crap being spouted by assholes like Kudlow, Kramer and Friedman. Supply Side doesn't work. Reagan massively increased the deficit. The economic prosperity you mentioned disproportionately went to the top, most of whom did not earn it, and which was bankrolled by defecit spending. "Free Market" economics DOES NOT WORK. You're living in economic fantasy land. Stop drinking the kool aid.

But most of all, use that damned carriage return!

(And if you mention Barney Frank, CRA or ACORN then I will personally reach my hand through the intertubes and smack you upside the head!)

What utter crap you people spout.

Sunday, October 5, 2008 02:52 AM

I can hardly wait....

until all these horrible things happen on the Democrats one party rule. Heh.

Sunday, October 5, 2008 03:12 AM

ondolette -

- 'To what bias and ideology are you referring'?

I am referring to my bias against bankers - I absolutely despise them -so i have to work very very hard not to blame them 100 percent in any economical crisis - and from our previous exchange i remembered - that calling a democracy like America a police state is more of an ideological statement than reality (as the common definitions of a 'police state' made clear) - and i never was interested very much in what German bankers had to say -

I just felt like telling you about my 'feelings' and the reaction of EUROPE to the American confusion - and if you wish lets discard them - as much as your comparison to some Japanese banker and the Japanese crisis - Because i am (as you) are mainly interested in the problem from the perspective of an American taxpayer - and as i have told you each time - i'm a know-nothing about economics (some eco-dudetts and dudes are probably laughing their a... off about our amateurish exchange) - But i still feel that the birth of the so called bailoutplan was first and for all a reaction to a psychological problem (and you are for sure familiar with Obamas 'put out the fire' and probably with all the statement of the so called experts, who agreed about the 'Psychological problem' - even they couldn't agree on a plan) - And i agree - as taxpayer, you should have the right to evaluate a proposal - AND not call up one day with the message: 'Kill the greedy bastards' and when you start realizing that you are one of them and they are killing YOU - call back the next day with 'please, please save my money -

And i guess -

Here we are again - back to where we started from:

With a bunch of grown-ups who took the fairy tale of the little boy who cried wolf too seriously (you might compare Bush fear mongering to the warnings about a economical crisis - but then - you can't complain ending up in the Never-Never land of bias and ideological discussions) - which a lot of reasonable people don'y enjoy anymore - they just want the system to work - and if you say 'the criminals on Wall Street' and sombody else -'the criminals on Maine Street' or 'white flag' or 'patriotism' ore 'label pin' or 'ruling class' or 'police state' - they smell a rat (a partisan idiot) and they don't trust partisan idiots anymore (you know the GOP overdid it)- and this might be at the heart of the whole problem - If even the so called experts in a economical crisis have to prove that they are not 'bias' or fans of the enemies ideology before they go to work- you accomplish nothing!

Sunday, October 5, 2008 03:13 AM

I Wish I Had the Faith You Do.

There is nothing that I want more than a restored faith in "middle America." Truly. And even in light of your admirable optimism, considering what we're dealing with here--that margin offered by the polls just isn't big enough to haul this weight.

If you had asked me two months ago how I thought Bush had managed to worm his way into a second term and ostensibly make fools out of the American people, I would have very sincerely answered that they were master manipulators of the truth. I would have said that numerous economic, geographic, cultural etc factors contribute to constrained access to information, and that were ALL Americans presented with the unfettered truth of the matter, at the very least, enthusiasm would have waned enough to preclude a 2nd term.

But I think I might have been wrong. McCain's team is no master of Rovian discourse. They're explicitly repeating myths, twisting syntax, shamelessly appropriating narratives without even the courtesy to at least draw the shades. It's plainer than plain can be.

It was indeed grossly cynical of McCain to choose Palin, but she is so profoundly unqualified, packed full of such nonsensical and condescending down-homisms, and truly no "supporter" of other women--what can possibly explain a difference between her and Biden that hardly dives below a handfull of points?

I can't help but wonder if maybe the GOP is right--if this is a nation full of rubes. If a terrifying anti-intellectualism is really at the heart of "Regular People." That scares me most of all because no matter who it is we end up electing, I don't see that sort of base dissolving with very much ease.

Sunday, October 5, 2008 03:27 AM

Jim Montague . tidbit. FEAST. etc., @ What you wrote on the last page. W.T. yes. W.T. a forest logger. you'd be hungry for some oak leaf tea. chew the bark off the stump of a axed- sassafras tree.

William Timberman was kind. A real gentleman. A.I. ;^) aye? Are they (~^,) symbol codes? Secret messages? I'm ever sure if they are important and I miss something. Pedinska does that ;) sorta stuff. Is it a pinch, wink, kick, punch, middle finger, or a bite? Is it a sound bite? It often can takes 3-days for me to digest , or more, a lifetime, for the many great COMMENT to sink in....

It's a daily bread. Manna. It's a crumb some times.

It's a daily FEAST. Momma. The cooking is yummy.

Any one dare participate @ UT, Salon get whipped.

~

Who hasn't felt like billowing off to a safe bird sanctuary? Peep and chirp quietly? O Tree. You can end up a headless goat here. Say one 'PEEP' or sound a bold, polite Afghan cultural burp, and 'Warder! Warder!"... a scream! Horse will Snort.

Oh, gallop, lashes, whips, collision, dust and flies.

Horsefly bites, welts, and ya`wonder? No jump in.

~I was reading again a 1968 'Natinal Geographic'.

~Afghanistan. THE CROSSWORDS of CONQUERORS.

~In a ancient Afghan, they talk of thousand of years warrior bloodlines. The oral history is communicated around ourdoor fires, a sizzling goat meat on a Shish Kabob. People spoke and listened. Children were welcome to participate.

Fires made wood chips cackle, from amber hot coal.

Lights sparkles flew into a dark sky, a warmth from huddling close together was the experience and atmosphere as music, tea, and tradition was spoken/shared. You could puff from a sacred pipe, tell stories about merchants, American aid programs, and a German style helmets may serve as a seat for your fanny? Maybe for fat butt, guest Freddie? HOSPITALITY! A hat-pot-hemet, turned upside down, became a comfortable "cushion" seat. No Lazy-boys found 'round a agrarian culture. Infantry combatants ma survive for long periods by knowhow making a small cut from a goat's neck blood vein. You'd defend your country by knowing how to shoot a left behind German etc., machine gun. Russian tanks were a goat or yak stable? Tales about the swarthy invaders from the past history etc., Learning one's own age-old customs was paramount. The warrior, who died from past wars, was a hero model. Maybe with a weather beaten face, and scruffy beard... noy a cute beauty, but non-the-less a past oral tradition was spoke of.... Learning.... people were revered. Afghanistan. An ingrained suspicion of foreiners was sure in the depth of the individual/collective spirit.

A sense, and lyrics in songs:`Better come home stained with blood, Then safe and sound as a coward.`

Back to Will Timberman: No one has to agree with every other-person's sentiment. I read at the old UT for months before I dare uttered a word. Chris Floyd said:` There is a lawyer saying this and that. Well, get saddled up, and spur with heels, I go on and on, but....

~ shut thee hell up.

I though: ~I gonna go kick his horse, pull a goat pony tail, and cuss like a vulgar, armed marine, army, navy, and air force bomber. private. I gonna break every damn rib-bone in his skinny body. It's time to feed lawyer bones to sheep. huh. bath time. edit. :^). corny. apple dough. ~W.T. and W.S. said ~You know what people should do to lawyers? Make them cook and serve mush. 3-X's a day.

What you can't eat at one meal,

stuff the ears, and back pockets.

consume later. Go to the movies.

Hurl hominy at one's in front seats.

corn hominy for breakfast.

Eat with timber tooth picks.

hungry.

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