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Saturday, October 4, 2008 12:00 AM

A country in shambles, under GOP rule

Efforts to blame Democrats for the country's deep woes assume deep stupidity on the part of the glorified Regular Voter.

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Saturday, October 4, 2008 07:48 AM

Am I missing something, graph-wise?

It looks as if that graph gives democrats control of the white house for the last eight years. Or am I Palinizing?

Saturday, October 4, 2008 07:50 AM

The graph in error?

Is there a mix-up on the blue and red on the graph?

Saturday, October 4, 2008 07:53 AM

Jimmcf

It looks as if that graph gives democrats control of the white house for the last eight years. Or am I Palinizing?

No - it was me who Palinized. I ventured forward with my maiden graph-making endeavor and I completely withered under the pressure.

It's fixed now.

Saturday, October 4, 2008 07:54 AM

Shouldn't the White House be red?

That visual will be really striking when updated.

Saturday, October 4, 2008 07:57 AM

10:55 Eastern and the graph is still wrong.

Gotta fix that, Glenn... before Drudge downloads it and pimps it to the information-poor voters who (like Mitt Romney, apparently) think they'll be throwing the Democrats out of the White House in November.

Saturday, October 4, 2008 07:58 AM

There's only one rational conclusion to be drawn from this:

Brooks, his talking heads ilk, and GOP simply don't live in the same country as the rest of us.

Their "world" consists purely of region inside US 395, aka "The Beltway". And even then, its limited to the environs of K and M Street and the various (ahem) 'think tanks' both inside and outside the District of Columbia proper.

Looking out from their overpriced, corporate-paid offices, the country certainly seems to be functioning well. Which is probably just as well, as I'm quite sure they're utterly unequipt of living anywhere or under the pressures the rest of us do.

And if I sound a tad bitter, trust me that I'm moderating my comments out of politeness. What I might say, entirely from first-hand experience of living there, simply isn't printable.

Saturday, October 4, 2008 08:03 AM

Chernobyl Kid

Gotta fix that, Glenn...

It's been fixed -- the wrong one was only up for 60 seconds. You probably just need to refresh.

Saturday, October 4, 2008 08:06 AM

Really?

Glenn, I'd be interested in a list of legislation introduced by the Democrats that would have changed our current course. It's easy to blame the Reps, but absent a true alternative the Dems are just as culpable. I don't pretend to be truly informed here, though, so if there really has been legislation that would end the war, stop torture, stop rendition, re-institute habeas for all, etc., I'll feel better about the Dems. Heck, I don't even recall hearings into this stuff.

Saturday, October 4, 2008 08:06 AM

I agree with everyone you wrote

and you put it far more cohesively and eloquently than I've been able to. But polls do suggest that some thirty percent (and maybe even forty percent) of Americans are at least as, or more, stupid as Lowry, Brooks and other Republicans think they are. That's a frighteningly high number.

Saturday, October 4, 2008 08:07 AM

MSNBC last night

Did you see that really brilliant montage of George W Bush (2000) and Sarah Palin debate clips on MSNBC last night?

They delivered EXACTLY the same lines. Exactly. Blathering on and on about change is coming and mavericks and all of that other crap. I really wish the Obama camp would make a TV ad out of it, because it would be devastating.

It's become clear to me that in order to run for office as a Republican you must lose all integrity and ability to either be embarrassed or to feel shame.

The fact that McCain can stand up and with a straight face talk about how he's an outsider in Washington after what, 26 years there? is just...beyond beyond.

Saturday, October 4, 2008 08:10 AM

Downeast

Yes, and when Palin followed her "I can tell I'm different from you folks who've been up here in Washington a long time" zinger with the suggestion that the antidote was a man who'd been in Washington for a quarter of a century, my jaw hit the floor.

Saturday, October 4, 2008 08:11 AM

I agree with everything you wrote

that's what that should have said. Perhaps I'm the magical dumb voter that Brooks is looking for.

Saturday, October 4, 2008 08:11 AM

PHaedrus

Glenn, I'd be interested in a list of legislation introduced by the Democrats that would have changed our current course. It's easy to blame the Reps, but absent a true alternative the Dems are just as culpable. I don't pretend to be truly informed here, though, so if there really has been legislation that would end the war, stop torture, stop rendition, re-institute habeas for all, etc., I'll feel better about the Dems. Heck, I don't even recall hearings into this stuff.

I didn't argue that the Democrats would have better. I just pointed out the fact that the GOP has ruled the country as it was driven into the ground.

But since you asked, the Democrats have introduced countless bills to end the war; they did introduce legislation to re-instate habeas corpus (which failed with overwhelming GOP opposition and overwhelming Democratic support); the Congress passed a bill to apply the torture prohibition to the CIA but Bush vetoed it and the GOP helped sustain the veto; and Democrats did introduce legislation to ban waterboarding (ditto -- McCain voted against that bill, Obama for).

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/19/breaking-senate-rejects-habeas-legislation/

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00340

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/mccain-waterboarding-fail/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336952,00.html

Saturday, October 4, 2008 08:12 AM

Anyone else notice...

... how much the David Brooks/Rich Lowrys are starting to resemble "Baghdad Bob?"

Brooks' proclamations of victory read like "The Onion" and Lowry's "starburst" comment is much better comedy.

Can you imagine what they'd be saying about Hillary if she claimed her bad answers were the result of being "annoyed" by the interviewer?

Saturday, October 4, 2008 08:13 AM

In case you haven't seen it yet

I'm sure most here have, but in case you missed it make sure you read through Sarah Palin's debate flow chart:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/3/43222/8057

Saturday, October 4, 2008 08:19 AM

I found the clip on msnbc comparing Bush/Palin debate clips

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#27015517

She really is Bush in a skirt.

Is this okay to post here since it's not actually a live link?

Saturday, October 4, 2008 08:19 AM

The GOP controls more than that!

We must not forget who voted Bush into office - The Supreme Court! An when you add to that all of the Administrative Branch - when under Democrates there are at least token members of the GOP - you get a more complete picture.

Saturday, October 4, 2008 08:22 AM

Speaking of the Onion...

They have a video about Obama responding to a McCain attack ad with a constructive criticism ad. It rings a bit true..

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_runs_constructive_criticism

To be fair, it seems Obama's message is getting through and his style is working even if we want to see him go for the jugular.

Or maybe it's just that the RW's message has lost it's appeal.

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