Lets bar any executive who has served with a company that wants Paulson's help from running ANY corporation or other entity either for profit or non-profit for 5 years.

Let's seize ANY bonuses that the entities paid any executive managers of these Wall Street welfare queens have paid within the past 2 years, in cash.

Let's seize all physical and computer records from these corporations so that a grand jury can pour over them to determine the illegalities of these corporations and that the damages, if any, are trebled.

Let's make it a crime for these corporations to sell ANY US investments or other physical or intangible items in a foreign country and make it retroactive for 2 years to keep all assets inside the US for a fire sale.

Let's make the physical property in excess of their primary domicile subject to immediate foreclosure and any physical property owned in full or in part that they own aside from their primary residence and a single automobile at the time of the bills passage is subject to immediate seizure and sale at government auction.

Let's make it mandatory for any executive's that served as corporate managers MUST attend any auctions or other sales and must be in plain view of ALL auction participants.

After ALL of those conditions have been met, Paulson can waste the American tax payers money on the corporation. ALL conditions have to be met. Otherwise, it's bankruptcy and those laws will be tightened to allow for the immeidate seizure of any and all investments and bonuses provided by the corporations involved for the previous 5 years. Bonuses and any compensation over $20,000 for ALL management will be seized. The one house/one car thing still applies.

Bush want's to play patty-cake with crooks? Let him save his base (Al Qaida?) with some perverse 'signing statement' that nullifies any of those parts of the law... I'd freaking dare him to do it... (The bill MUSY close by October 25th.)

Bilaterally.

They don't even see it...looking.

[As a few of them actually, however occasionally, do.]

signed ex-Bircher, voter for Geo. Wallace....

[So from experience & a lo-ong story]

It's NOT funny!

I work with some people that seriously believe that George Walker Bush has 'shrunk' government! Yeah! Seriously!

They actually believe it!

Sorry for the keyboards that might have ruined with spit takes...

They actually will vote for McCain because he will keep 'fighting "big government" just like Bush has'.

Yes, the voting population in America really is that stupid...

GG,

What I have found most interesting and intriguing is something that we do not talk about. And that is John Yoo's lifetime experience in terms of who he is and what kind of family and cultural background he comes from.

We are all influenced by our parents, our environment, our original cultural background. Meaning, where our families originated from. What did we keep from the old country? And we all keep something from the old country.

In many instances, this legacy weights heavily on us, far more than we are willing to admit.

So, if Yoo comes from a cultural legacy that insists on a figure head, i.e. his father to be a strong head of his family, where opposite opinions might not be allowed to the children, then it is not surprising that when he was asked to draft the famous, or infamous, opinion regarding president Bush, that his position thus was: He can do whatever he wants. He's the head honcho. Was this just a simple reflection of the kind of cultural family legacy that he knows best?

In terms of what one understand the rich culture that ostensibly Yoo belongs to, it is not surprising that his attitude came down to this.

And the obvious difficulty is that we do not talk about this cultural aspect because the risk of being branded a racist comes immediately to mind.

However, the point I am trying to make is that there are strong cultural influences that definately shape our view of the larger world, yet we cannot simply divorce ourselves from such baggage. Even if in other aspects of who we are, we share that we are all Americans, proud, yet different. On a more personal level, I happen to think that Yoo did a great harm, incalculable harm to our country. He can not be very proud of it.

Google is your friend. I didn't find the 2002 youtube clip, but you can see the text of the speech here

I already had the text. I was looking for the YouTube clip. I'm not even sure it's the same speech. And before asking here, I tried Google -- along with many other search instruments. They weren't my friend.

As I recall, I saw it linked on Reddit or something like that a few weeks ago.

Let's imagine a conversation between Glenn and someone like Ed Morrissey:

Glenn: Ed, that's the most hypocritical crap you've ever written in the eight years I've been reading your pathetically deluded blog..

Ed: Hypocritical? Hypocritical? How?

Glenn: you advocate small government when you face the prospect of being out of power, big government, not to say *tyrannical* government when your guy is in power..

Ed: what's hypocritical about that? When my guy is in power, I want the power for my side. when your guy is in power, I don't want him to have any power at all. What's so hard to understand about that? If he's my tyrant, I'm totally good with that.

Glenn: Uh.... I'm not sure how to respond to that. I understand it, but it's unamerican.

Ed: no it's not, you commie pinko. It's as American as apple pie and that automatic rifle in my den. Now go away while I club another seal-pup.

*******

Glenn, nothing funny about any of this. Authoritarians want power at all times. They don't want anyone else to have any power. That's the long and short of it. From that perspective, there's nothing inconsistent about Morrissey and Malkin at all. I find them ENTIRELY consistent.

but my jaw always drops at this kind of hypocrisy.

It's an autonomic reflex by this point. Nothing you can do about it.

I agree that laughter helps. Morphs it into something a bit less painful.

Kitt - His latest RW windfall of talking points is about American military deaths in Iraq as opposed to crime deaths in - of course - Chicago.

You'd think he'd at least keep current in his talking points. That one got moldy long ago (setting aside the fact that it was extensively mildewed at birth).

Re: into the outhouse cellar. That sounds like an even better idea for the Dante-esque level of hell we're designing for them. Here was Jim White's (or was it Montague? I get my Jims confused...) idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJCGTs4k6tc