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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:00 AM

Key senators dispute FBI's anthrax case against Bruce Ivins

The FBI director faces emphatic doubts about his claims that the anthrax attacker has been identified.

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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 06:33 PM

Playing Devils Advocate For Mueller (Part Trois)

Thanks for the update Glenn. Obviously, D.D. does a better job as Devil's Advocate than me! But even he reserves plenty of criticism for Mueller.

If the question of weaponization has generated a lot of false and misleading media articles, as DD suggests, then who is to blame? The LA Times article he cites is a real bombshell, and the timing is very interesting indeed. Peter Jahrling, a "famous virologist" at Ft. Detrick, now says the media hype about silicon additives and disintegrating spores was all his fault.

Ed Lake has more about these "mistakes":

Peter Jahrling was summoned to the White House on October 24, where he briefed FBI officials, CIA spooks, John Ashcroft and other members of the Cabinet on what had been learned so far about the anthrax powder in the Daschle letter.

He told them about the mysterious “goop” they had seen oozing out of the spores. He even passed around the photographs they’d taken of the “goop”, telling everyone that it was probably an additive. He was speculating! A big BIG mistake in such a situation.

That speculation triggered a lot of discussion. It was asked if the additive proved it was a bioweapon produced in Iraq.

Jahrling said it “could be”, but it didn’t look like any Iraqi sample they’d ever seen before, and it didn’t contain bentonite. He told them that they’d know more the next day, after further tests were made.

According to Preston, “The atmosphere in the room started to feel like a war council deciding whether or not to attack Iraq.”

Jahrling tried to calm things down by explaining that a few grams of highly pure anthrax could easily be made in a little laboratory with some small pieces of equipment. “This anthrax could have come from a hospital lab or from any reasonably equipped college microbiology lab,” he told everyone at the briefing.

The FBI officials there posed a critical question: How could the investigators look for some kind of “signature” in the anthrax that might identify its source or even the specific lab which made it. It was already known that it was the Ames strain, and that brought down the number of possible labs, but was there anything in the spores which could further reduce the possible sources?

The tests they planned to do the next day might provide a partial answer that question.

Another big mistake followed. What was discussed at the White House was leaked to the media and became front page stories in the next morning’s New York Times and the following morning’s Washington Post.

PDF linked at my sig with a lot more info from Ed Lake.

So on the one hand you have this top scientist seeing things he has never seen before - presumably despite a lifetime studying this stuff - and then jumping to the wrong conclusions, and then telling the White House, and then the story gets leaked to the press despite all the caveats and promises to provide more info within 24 hours.

And on the other hand you have a host of people like Richard Spertzel lining up the next day to finger Iraq as the most likely source.

Sorry, but it all sounds a bit too cute to me. I mean, this is an administration which already had plans to attack Iraq, which forged letters to frame Iraq, which manipulated intelligence to frame Iraq, which was run by oilmen who craved to get their hands on oil in Iraq...

Sorry but I just don't buy it.

If these are really "mistakes" then tell me who has been sacked?

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 06:35 PM

@bystander

You just made me laugh, you subversive, you.

It's funny, nowadays, all you have to do to be subversive is not be afraid of telling it like it is.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 06:43 PM

@Gandhi re: Official Narrative of 9/11

Gandhi, I enjoy reading your letters. If you're sincerely interested in learning more about the official narrative of 9/11, watch Fabled Enemies, by Jason Bermas. It's 1 hour, 42 minutes of scrutiny and dot-connecting.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2144933190875239407

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 06:54 PM

The FBI's accusation and insinuation that Ivins was not busy during the Sept. 11 period is false as shown by their own affidavit

The following is from the Dellafera affidavit, page 13

( and on the link )

http://www.usdoj.gov/amerithrax/07-524-M-01%20search%20warrant%20affidavit.pdf

September 7, 2001, "I was taken off the Special Immunization Program because of what happened last spring, and I've just gotten back on it, getting my anthrax and Yellow fever shots. We are currently finishing up the last of the AVA, and when that is gone, there is nothing to replace it with. I don't know what will happen to the research programs and hot suite work until we get a new lot. There are no approved lots currently available at BioPort .. --- Has been having us have biweekly meetings on the rPA vaccine progress, and on August 29 I went to the Pentagon - first time there - to go to a meeting in his place on the vaccine. There is a real bag of worms with a new lot of rPA produced by BDP ( a private company ) for NCI, who is under contract to USAMRIID. BDP signed a sub-contract with to produce the rPA for human use vaccine Phase I trial. They were paid and they produced it. Now they are refusing to release it unless the Army pays some incredible sum of money for lawsuit indemnification ( about $200,000 per year for the next 50 years ) . The Army refuses to do that of course and everything is in Limbo."

This is presented unchallenged and is even confirmed elsewhere in the affidavit, and indicates that Ivins was in the loop of operations, and working on the most important mission as USAMRIID, that is keeping the place running. If the AVA ( BioPort vaccine ) runs out, no scientists can work on ongoing projects and the place, at least as far as vaccine research shuts down.

Further more, Ivins was subsequently awarded the highest award for a civilian military worker for his efforts to get production problems associated AVA solved.

As incorrectly stated in the affidavit, Ivins was not associated with BioPort in any way. Any patents he may have partially been part in, along with coworkers and the military applied to a newer product, rPA, or RECOMBINANT protective antigen. The BioPort product used by researchers is NOT RECOMBINANT. Both projects were critical, both to support current operations and future improved products. All this quote shows is that Ivins was instrumental in both ongoing projects at USAMRIID.

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