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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:00 AM

Key senators dispute FBI's anthrax case against Bruce Ivins

The FBI director faces emphatic doubts about his claims that the anthrax attacker has been identified.

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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:42 AM

Mueller has a history of lying

and it started at his confirmation hearing when he was ask a question regarding key logging software. He said he didn't know anything about it, but he added his thoughts to a published article anyway. That was 10 years prior, maybe he just couldn't recall.

The link is at my signature.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:43 AM

They did what?!!!

I think that the best evidence by far that the FBI did not think that Ivins was involved in the anthrax attacks is that they purposefully let him out of a mental institution after he had threatened to kill his coworkers and others.

This very simple argument is self apparent. It requires no scientific training or specialized knowledge, only the most basic common sense.

I don't see how the FBI can possibly have an answer for this.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:12 PM

@The Notorious W.E.S.

Nah, they had a professional "suicide" the poor guy after they harassed him enough to make him look bad.

How many microbiologists connected with this have died mysteriously 14, 15, 16, 17?

Who is counting?

I bet Hatfield sleeps with a loaded gun under his pillow.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:14 PM

I Like it Better

When I thought the FBI went after crooks and bad guys instead of protecting them and covering up for them.

They should arrest them all, lock them up and throw away the key.

The FBI, that is.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:15 PM

I Liked it Better

When I thought the FBI went after crooks and bad guys instead of protecting them and covering up for them.

They should arrest them all, lock them up and throw away the key.

The FBI, that is.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:18 PM

Word

Glenn--Thanks for giving synopses of the House and Senate hearing on this despicable episode, where the FBI is obviously trying to perpetuate a fraud. Thought it was interesting/reasonable that Leahy demanded that the FBI get him answers to his questions during the break. I mean it is the Internet Age and Mueller is acting irresponsibly/contemptuously.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:21 PM

Let me tighten the bolded line in my above post.

they purposefully let him out of a mental institution where he had been committed against his will for threatening to kill his coworkers and others.

OT and stolen.

Has the Bush admin now nationalized more companies than Hugo Chavez?

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:34 PM

Richard Cohen

Is there some reason why neither the House nor Senate comittees have called Richard Cohen to testify, to ask him what "high government official" warned him to obtain Cipro before the anthrax attacks had taken place?

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:44 PM

@ topical fish

No one wants to get to the bottom of this.

Otherwise they might get a letter filled with white powder.

The fact that these people were warned prior to 9/11 connects everything together quite nicely - Bin Laden obviously had a person working at Fort Detrick. He must have had people working at the Pentagon too, and also that White EW 747 that was flying over DC on 9/11 too.

Yeah, al qaeda is everywhere and all powerful. No wonder they have not caught him yet.

No wonder Cohen doesn't want to reveal who warned him to take Cipro - nobody crosses Bin Laden and gets away with it. Would you rat on the person who warned you to take Cipro?

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 12:54 PM

Bin Lauden is a bush family friend

This can be proven by a 2 minute google search.

Daddy Bush and the Carlyle group. The Bin Laudens are also investors in this group.

How sweet it is.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 01:02 PM

Maryland has laws too

If the conduct of the FBI in the Ivins investigation was not completely constitutional, it would have been breaking Maryland laws too.

Remember the Lewinski scandal, Linda Tripp had to be pardoned for violation of the very strict Maryland Laws, merely for recording a conversation she was having without the knowledge of Lewinski. If the warrants presented by the FBI do not extend back any further than a year ( octoMaryland has laws tooboer 2007 ) as presented, then most likely they violated a whole bunch of Maryland law and that might be another potential direction for the investigation, provided someone in Maryland was interested in the strange death of the countries top biologists on their soil.

Lets's just keep in mind that the state of Maryland is flat on it's back in this case as well as the Congress.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 01:10 PM

@wingspan_too

Maryland learned its lesson when Lincoln locked up the legislature to prevent them from seceding from the Union.

Besides, that's where the secret underground bases for a nuclear war are located.

The one near Columbia is awesome.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 01:44 PM

Is there a pattern here?

I can't attest to the death of irony. Or, the end of history. But, I'm pretty sure we are chronicling the end of accountability.

Media Matters has recently written about the current tendency of the McCain-Palin campaign to persist in advancing outright lies in the face of media opprobrium. Apparently, this has some in the media confused. Not only have they been sent to the back of the campaign bus/plane, but it would seem that McCain-Palin have decided that not only does it matter if they lie - repeatedly - but, that even if the media finally ties to hold them to account, the voters don't care. The voters don't care, presumably, because the media has lost its authority in voters' decision making processes.

Likewise, Palin, and those civil servants who initially agreed to a "Troopergate" investigation, have all changed their minds. The message from these folks in Alaska is, apparently, Suck on this!

Of course, what has preceded all this, is the ongoing, politely delivered, but no less effective fuck you message from anyone, and everyone, Congress would like to hold to account. I wonder if Pelosi understood the full range of accountability options she swept off the table when she removed impeachment from the place settings.

I'm considering that somewhere in the past 8 - 10 years Congress made itself as irrelevant as the press. And, I'm trying to decide what stands between the people and their rulers from this point forward. Not much, it would seem.

I'm sure there are other examples from other institutional arrangements. Wall Street certainly comes to mind. And, I'm beginning to think that our military in the Middle East is a mere facade to give our operations there a veneer of respectability - with the private mercs pursuing the real agenda.

So, when did the social compact go on life support? And, when is the funeral?

Wednesday, September 17, 2008 02:01 PM

OT again, sorry

There has been another missile strike in Pakistan. Admiral Mullen is there on an unscheduled visit to talk to Prime Minister Gillani and Army chief Kayani. An army spokesperson said yesterday that the Pakistani military has shoot to kill orders on American incursions (within some rules of engagement: they need to be sure they're Americans before they shoot). Normally not too hot headed people in Pakistan are getting very anti-American, very fast. Check out Teeth Maestro, for instance (http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog).

And now back to the total financial collapse, arranging how 110,000,000 shareholders can attend the AIG stockholders meeting so they can be properly tarred and feathered, evaluating the comments of the Dracula-Barbie ticket, and determining how many anthrax murderers are still at large.

Really, these are important issues, I just thought you might like to hear about the Pakistani situation, it isn't being covered because it isn't news. It's just another war, honey, seen one, you seen 'em all. War by executive order only.

Happy Constitution Day.

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