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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:00 AM

New heights of stupidity

Anyone who thought the 2008 election would be "different" should examine the "Obama called Palin a pig" story.

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008 04:37 AM

Why Is John McCain Supporting NAMBLA & Pedophiles?

John McCain is attacking Barack Obama for trying to make our children aware of how to protect themselves from pedophiles.*

Why does John McCain want to protect pedophiles and keep our children from detecting their advances?

John McCain: Stop Supporting NAMBLA and Pedophiles.

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*Since now the GOP loonies are now attacking Obama for mentioning basic lessons to children about how to keep themselves safe or how to answer questions like 'Where do babies come from?' as though Obama is backing free condom distribution with showings of hard-core porn & Satanic sacrifices to kindergartners, we might as well play their game too, at their level, with their standards of duplicity. Why not?
Wednesday, September 10, 2008 04:38 AM

Well, Of Course

The election is not going to be about issues; it's going to be another round of "who would you rather have a beer with?" only this time the question is "who would you rather watch your kid's sporting event with?" When I turned on NPR this morning and heard *them* parroting this nonsensical story about "lipstick on a pig" (although, granted, they did at least also point out that the phrase has been a part of not only Obama's, but also McCain's political rhetoric in the past), I knew that we would have no hope of getting an issues-oriented campaign.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 04:43 AM

Absolutely right...

... and when I go into work next week, I can almost guarantee that I will meet more than one person who said Obama called Palin a pig.

Not only this, you can guarantee that Republican supporters will be spreading this lie among their low-information coworkers and milking it for all it is worth.

Of course, since Palin has indentified herself as a "pitbull", what the Dems should really be doing is pointing out that while pitbulls, when domesticated, can make loveable pets, they are also the animal of choice for illegal fighting, frequent companions of drugs dealers and criminals, and have occasionally been known to attack and kill children.

It is also illegal to possess or import pitbulls in jurisdictions such as the United Kingdom, Australia, France, Ontario and various towns and cities in the US.

In shelters for unwanted dogs, pitbulls predominate numerically over all other breeds.

The message for the Dems to get out is that a pitbull is more appropriate for a crack house than a White House.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 04:44 AM

Yes, they are that stupid

This brings to mind what Walter Cronkite, the "most trusted man in America" during my lifetime who broke the news of Vietnam“s loss and man on the moon, said after the 2004 reelection of Bush: voters no longer have the critical reasoning capacity to choose wisely between an overqualified candidate and a transparent nitwit. Without this, no democracy can survive.

But it is much worse. There is in the character of the very same middle Americans who claim to be such "Good Christians" a fatal flaw where hearing the worst about someone takes precedence over ANY notion of good citizenship, or even self survival. To ask how working Americans could vote so diametrically opposite of their economic interests, you only need to look at the poll last year where half of the population through they were wealthy. This level of cluelessness is a level of stupidity that goes beyond putting our democracy at risk, it actually guarantees our failure.

So when the most common saying can be spun into a smear by the candidate who has tried mightily to stay above board, and whose supporters are pleading for him to go low into the gutter to even have a chance, there you have the last gasp of a great country whose own forced stupidity did it in.

Would that it were not. Greed alone assures it thus.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 04:53 AM

I am somewhat surprised

That both the press and the GOP are so forcefully coming to the defense of pigs.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 04:54 AM

Once again you depress me

So, here's what I need you to help me to understand: are journalists aware of what they're doing? Sometimes I get the feeling that they are but refuse to think about it (cf your post yesterday) but sometimes I think they really aren't aware of what they're doing because of a sort of follow-the-leader herd mentality combined with a self-reinforcing social network (cf lots of other posts you've made).

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 04:56 AM

Metaphor

The lipstick part of Obamas speech is what is usually called a "Metaphor" in the civilized world. You can read about it on the Internet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 05:00 AM

Oh, for the love of...

This is so patently ridiculous. I've used that colloquialism more than once, and I'm a 31-year-old woman. I'm also from Indiana, and since Obama has spent a number of years in Chicago, it's not suprising this saying would be part of his political repitoire. It's a standard part of any Midwest politician's insult grab bag.

This is so digusting. I have no idea what to make of it, other than Obama is getting Swift-boated, and the media is gleefully filling the boat with water.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 05:11 AM

Yeah this is stupid...

Reminds me of all the stupid crap the Obama campaign accused Hillary of and how the media blindly fell over themselves to report it all.

Or maybe since Obama depended on this crap to win the nomination we shouldn't be all that surprised when it is turned on him.

Again, he needs to start fighting to win this thing or else it's president McCain.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 05:15 AM

Insult? No.

Pigs are smarter than pitbulls. A pitbull will follows its master bidding, or go off half cocked. Pigs have their own mind. And they taste better.

Still, neither pigs nor pitbulls are particularly good at, say, economic analysis or delicate negotiation or other POTUS stuff like that - You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

Wednesday, September 10, 2008 05:15 AM

Sure the phrase is common and innocuous

it shouldn't be a big deal EXCEPT for the context. "Lipstick" is now the "word" for Palin in the Main Stream Media and in both parties campaigns. It is disingenuous to pretend that Obama was using the phrase without intending it to be about Palin.

Disingenuous is a high class word for bullshit. Glenn, the stink of Walsh and Salon is affecting your thought process.

Obama was being clever and sly while at the same time being stupid and clumsy. Talk like that reminds me of the current president and Obama is every bit as qualified as the current President.

Glenn, he was comparing Palin to a pig, and that isn't Kosher, OR Halal.

Let us hear him call the current President a pig and all is forgiven.

You know that will not happen.

Obama is a stooge and a puppet.

They make the best presidents for the war industry.

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