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Thursday, September 4, 2008 12:00 AM

The GOP's cheerful viciousness

Yet again, the GOP launches brutal personality and cultural attacks on the Democratic candidate. Yet again, Democrats seem determined to allow it to do so.

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Thursday, September 4, 2008 04:37 PM

Hold your water, sonny

Yes, indeedy! And the latest CBS-NY Times poll has an even steven tie at 42-42.

So much for Obama's eight point lead, which is now history.

All this blather about the "new political paradigm" O & B are using is tommyrot. It will not work, and they WILL lose unless they eagerly grab the weapons needed and partake in the political WARfare.

-- droogoy

That poll is an outlier and the weighting was different from the last sample. More pukes.

The lead is still the same.

No Dent in Obama Lead So Far

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110032/Gallup-Daily-Dent-Obama-Lead-Far.aspx

The Dow too a 345 point nosedive today on the Palin Speech

Obama and his team are doing fine. And they are not going to pull a Kerry.

They know what they are doing. You can be as ugly as you want to get. Bloggers are. Rachel Maddow was kicking ass and the media are pissed at McCain. Be patient. Don't lose your cool.

Now about that joke...

A joke too bad to print?

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HOW SEN. JOHN McCAIN'S TASTELESS TWO-LINER ABOUT CHELSEA CLINTON AND JANET RENO WAS CENSORED OUT OF THE NATION'S LEADING NEWSPAPERS.

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BY DAVID CORN

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html

Thursday, September 4, 2008 04:37 PM

Fight back? Against what?

Why bother with some staged Republican attack?

Look at the Republican record. Obama doesn't need to attack Bush, Cheney, McCain, Lieberman, Delay, Lott, etc.

Their record speaks for itself - and look at their pathetically political choice of a VP - you really want her running the country?

Halliburton and Cheney, British Petroleum and Palin, ChevronTexaco and Condi Rice, ExxonMobile and Tom Delay - the picture should be pretty clear.

What the Bush crowd has been trying to do for their real base is to lock in oil leases for their cronies before they are kicked out of office. That's why Palin was chosen as well - she has a carefully crafted public image as a "small town hockey mom reformer", while behind the scenes, she works for the real corporate welfare queens by helping provide government contracts and $500 million subsidies for her husband's company, British Petroleum, who stands to make billions off of Alberta tar sands.

Here you go:

Shifting tar sands: BP is making a return to the Canadian province of Alberta, which deserves better than to be abused by oil companies

heather mallick, guardian.co.uk, Thursday December 06 2007

So BP is finally returning to Canada's black hell. Welcome back, stout British Petroleum. Eight years after you shunned our tarry oil deposits for the watery, more profitable Russian stuff, your desperate need for oil has brought you back to Alberta, batting your eyelashes and fanning yourself with $10bn in cash...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/dec/06/shiftingtarsands

They ran such a nice greenwashing campaign, too. "Beyond Petroleum", wasn't it? Too bad they were talking about Alberta tar sands, not wind and solar.

BP also operates the pipeline in Georgia that was is such a mjor issue in the recent conflict there.

That has nothing at all to do with Cheney's current visit to the region, or with McCain's choice of Palin - nothing at all.

Completely irrelevant - and that's why the "liberal media" isn't covering it.

Yours, Ike Solem

Thursday, September 4, 2008 04:39 PM

@UsedtobeKristin

It's good to show the Repug trolls taking money from McSame for showing up here, how "liberals" want to post facts and not deceive anyone. But, Anne Kilkenny suggested people google her to ascertain her identity and validity. In a town the size of Walisa it would be impossible to be a fraud.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 04:40 PM

Swift Boating Kerry cost him about 3%

and that 3% made the difference between losing and winning the presidency. Even the massive voter suppression and fraud in Ohio wouldn't have worked for the GOP had he not lost so much support in the aftermath of the attacks on his military recrd, especially from independents, because of his reluctance to fight back. I spoke with a neighbor of mine this morning, he's an independent voter leaning toward Obama and he told me how disappointed he was that Palin had been allowed to brutalize Obama and the Democrats and that in response Biden praised her speech. His words verbatim were:"how can obama&Biden be entrusted with protecting the nation when they are unable to defend themselves against that woman?"

Thursday, September 4, 2008 04:45 PM

Why?

I want to hear what Greenwald thinks the Dems should do -- specifically.

-- Xrandadu Hutman

Why do anything yet? Wait and see what the post convention bounce is. My money is on 1 to 2 %. It could be zero, or even a negative bounce. You people rattle too easy.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 04:47 PM

@ RMP

In a town the size of Walisa it would be impossible to be a fraud.

-- Retired Military Patriot

Point well taken. But, just for the record, my caution over the article was not because of or directed at the resident trolls, to display that "liberals" fact-check. (As if they would care anyway! :) )

By the way, that Daily Show clip you linked is a must watch! The Dick Morris "apron strings" quote, by itself, is enough to make it worth watching.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 04:48 PM

Ron Pauliac

Nothing is off limits except the kids

Too late. She's already made her family an issue herself, three or four ways.

It's just as well that Palin has made even herself an issue, since she's already admitted to being clueless on matters of national policy and desperate to avoid any real issues. Her value as a right-wing campaign novelty item will be gone after she's stumbled on a few softball questions.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 04:50 PM

For Shooter

Wonder where I got the idea for the word trollop? I submit to you an excerpt from pages 49-50 of The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter:

Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain's intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt." McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.

I just thought trollop was a word McCain would identify with. It seems to fit with his view of women, given his policy position on abortion. We're still waiting for him to get back to us about his position on birth control. There are rather unfortunate developments when Republican authoritarians advocate abstinence only education. You might check with his campaign on how that's working out.

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