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Thursday, September 4, 2008 12:00 AM

The GOP's cheerful viciousness

Yet again, the GOP launches brutal personality and cultural attacks on the Democratic candidate. Yet again, Democrats seem determined to allow it to do so.

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Thursday, September 4, 2008 01:14 PM

Palin's Proles

"And remember that it is forever. The face will always be there to be stamped on. The heretic, the enemy of society, will always be there, so that he can be defeated and humiliated over again. ... The espionage, the betrayals, the arrests, the tortures, the executions, the disappearances will never cease. It will be a world of terror as much as a world of triumph. The more the Party is powerful, the less it will be tolerant; the weaker the opposition, the tighter the despotism. ....

"We control life, Winston, at all levels. You are imagining that the is something called human nature which will be outraged by what we do and will turn against us. But we create human nature. Men are infinitely malleable. Or perhaps you have returned to your old idea that the proletarians or the slaves will rise and overthrow us. Put it out of you mind. They are helpless, like the animals. Humanity is the Party. Th others are outside - irrelevant."

Orwell. 1984

Thursday, September 4, 2008 01:14 PM

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Oh really? That's an incendiary accusation. Let's see the documentation.

-- shooter242

"My opponent [Obama] would rather lose a war than lose an election."--Senator John McCain

That coming out of the mouth of one senator about another senator is aka, accusing him of treason.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 01:15 PM

Ondelette - Thanks for links

Lately, for some strange reason, I've found myself pondering the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007...

Thursday, September 4, 2008 01:16 PM

@pantanal

Yeah, and Nazis believe 2+2=4, and some wore pants, drove cars and ate food. And wouldn't you know many Americans do the same thing, hence we're becoming fascists!

Run for the hills!

Thursday, September 4, 2008 01:16 PM

Hope Peggy Noonan is right

ie: 'Its over'.

However, since that is highly unlikely.....the Dems should biting below the belt and pulling hair. Fair is fair.

The sexist card that they are now playing since she has come under media scrutiny, simply reeks with hypocrisy.

At the convention, a close-in camera shot depicted a lapel button with the phrase 'hottest candidate from the coolest state', something which one pundit or another also commented on.

It seems as though they can have their cake and eat it too.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 01:18 PM

treason

Pronunciation:

ˈtrē-zən

Function:

noun

Etymology:

Middle English tresoun, from Anglo-French traisun, from Latin tradition-, traditio act of handing over, from tradere to hand over, betray — more at traitor

Date:

13th century

1 : the betrayal of a trust : treachery 2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family

Thursday, September 4, 2008 01:18 PM

Hitched to the same buggy

If the pugs and dems shared the same strategic objectives, how would they act?

They'd use Obama like a whipping boy and he'd say 'thanks I'll have another!'

All with the objective of collapsing the middle who are not so fond of war, etc. The last 20 years has been a war against the middle class in practically every way. And it is paying dividends.

the Democrats' gamble that they can win this election without really engaging those issues, while allowing that war to be waged in a one-sided manner yet again, is a true gamble.

--GG

That is by DESIGN. House rules gambling, if you will. Rolling over is the dems job. Who ever wins, the middle will be crushed.

Why else would Obama VOTE FOR FISA? It was lose lose unless you take into consideration his role in the scheme of things.

Yet again, they delivered brutally effective and deeply personal blows to the Democratic presidential candidate grounded in the same manipulative and deceitful yet very potent themes they've been using for the last three decades.

Notice that much of the rhetoric is geared at shoring up the republican base with nary a care for what liberal progressive america haters think?

I was real happy (not) when Pelousi came out at the DNC and said health care is a right not a privilege. I could just hear my conservatives friends shriek. Way to go Nancy. Even the dems are playing a role in shoring up the republican base.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 01:20 PM

You know...

There really isn't any evidence that negative personal attacks accomplish anything.

It's just my opinion, and maybe a foolish one, but I am of the beliefe the American People are not as dumb as many think.

The tabloidism and schoolyard attacks aren't what kill you, but they can twist the knife.

What really determines the outcome of elections is the emotional investment of people.

Once people become emotionally invested in a candidate one way or the other, no simple attack will sawy them.

For the Obama supporter, dericive comments about their candidate are clearly just the desperate ravings of lunatic minds, just as any statement against McCain can be taken and repeated as gosple truth, and of course vice versa.

The convention attacked McCain on his policies and his ties to a failed unpopular administation, and as polls after the fact show, he has connected with the majority of the populace in this way. Now that people have become emotionally invested in their candidate weak personal attacks will do little to sway his support (currently between 48 and 51% of the elctorate).

These attacks at the republican convention were ment to rally thier base, somehting the democrats don't need to do as their base came to a fully rallied status during and before the convention.

McCain will not attract swing voters from his party's behavior last night. Though if he can pull off an Obama strong speech tonight there could still be a horse race.

We'll get our poll numbers reflecting the results of last night and tonight on wednesday. Then we'll know what worked and what didn't.

Remember Kerry lost not because of the charges of elitism or swiftboating, but because there was at that time still a significant ammount of support for the Bush Administration and their policies. And Gore, never lost among the people, and only lost due to the clericle difficulties associated with the Florida Balloting.

Many an attack was levied against Clinton both in 92 and 96, yet still he emerged victorious, because by that time people had become emotionally invested in the man.

Thursday, September 4, 2008 01:20 PM

"the Dems should biting below the belt and pulling hair ..." --Northwestwoods

So, Dems like rough sex, eh?

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