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Monday, September 1, 2008 12:00 AM

Scenes from St. Paul -- Democracy Now's Amy Goodman arrested

Scores of people are tear-gassed. At least 250 people are arrested. And St. Paul is as militarized a scene as one will see in an American city.

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Wednesday, September 3, 2008 01:07 AM

LWM

Why does this fail to inspire me with the prospect of unbiased reporting?

-- L.W.M.

Molly Preismeyer didn't really title her piece, "Reporting From the 'Front Lines'". That was my own bit of flamboyance added on to her heading just for fun. She wasn't "embedded". She just followed them around all day, as she said, and reported on what she saw. Her reporting reads like a fine report to me. Not unlike your 'riding around in the patrol car' observation that you've mentioned a number of times. Except Molly wasn't "embedded" with the cops.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 01:24 AM

does molly preismeyer know friedensreich freudenberger ? -

and is she married? - Because Friedensreich is looking for a wife and perhaps we can send h

Molly up to Yosemite instead of Amy - because Friedensreichs situation is getting desperate up there.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 01:47 AM

OMG!! WTF!! A New Stategerie!!

Checkitout!!

I don't think St. Paul riots were the "party" he was talking about but the less the media covers it the better for us. We wouldn't want to give "George" any more talking points.

THAT'S THE ANSWER!!

I'm so shocked that nobody thought of just cowering before the raw show of force that is the Republican party.

Or, should I say, cowering before the raw wet pin~ata that they have become.

Bush has an approval rating so low that the corporate media doesn't dare measure it anymore.

Cheney's is lower than throat cancer.

McCain is off his meds and picking his running mates w/ Viagra(tm).

But don't ever, EVER, think that anyone left of Pelosi is going to win the war of the talking points on corporate TV. Fuck that. It's right wing owned.

You will never seen Howard Zinn on television. You'll see Noam Chomsky twice in one human lifetime. But O'Reilly, Alan Colmes and Glenn Beck will be there every night until we take back the FCC.

People fighting for TV media talking points are tilting at windmills. Forget it! THIS is our media. The series of tubes!

Don't worry. Everybody under 50 these days knows that TV is bullshit and the internet is where it's at.

I've been watching the reactions.. on youtube .. on the tech blogs I watch for work. People who see these police tactics in St. Paul. They're fucking OUTRAGED. Just like they should be.

Show them the absolutely crystal clear violations of Constitutional (and all other) law. Like cops breaking and entering, weapons drawn, into a house full of journalists with a known bad warrant: http://aeconomics.blogspot.com/2008/09/police-raid-and-detainment-of-i-witness.html

Don't ever let these authoritarian "liberals" or their Daddy issues scare you out of recognizing your own power to change things.

This convention is waking people up! Jump on it!

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 01:59 AM

@Kitt

Propaganda is propaganda. It isn't just something "the other side" does that refutes your propaganda, spin, slant or bias and doesn't fit with your less than objective or preferred framing.

And you totally miss the point of doing a ride along. You won't be doing one in a situation like this. Another point. As much as the RNC is the opposition, this is a democracy and their convention is part of the democratic process. If a bunch of right wing authoritarians tried to crash the Democratic convention (they'd be joined by these fucking asshats, strange bedfellows and all that) you'd be screaming for the police to do something. Not to mention the fact that this is precisely the type of stuff the CIA does to disrupt the democratic process in other countries. You people are so blinded by your moral outrage and anger you don't even realize what blatant hypocrisy you are engaged in. You have become the monsters you profess to hate. And all this when we are poised to make major electoral gains at the ballot box, if some independents who were leaning to Obama don't get frightened by this childish stupidity and now vote for Strong Man McCain. Pat, pat, on your back.

markup cheney, let me repeat what are an incredibly stupid and ignorant asshat you really are.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 02:01 AM

Make that

Markdown Cheney

You are way overpriced. A loss leader.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 02:19 AM

I don’t know about markov-cheney -

- he might be up to something - I also always thought it was a conspiracy of Obama to get Bush in - and there is no question that O Reilly and all his friends are doing his work - Without them he never would be elected – So I figure IT IS – was - OMG!! WTF!! A New Stategerie!!

I think its called – 'the long walk through the institutions' – where you only have to make sure that a total idiot is elected before you run for president - and then its just a pieceofcake!

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 02:20 AM

@Kitt- She wasn't "embedded"?

Read that link:

http://www.minnesotaindependent.com/6699/embedded-with-the-anarchists-dispataches-from-rnc

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 02:30 AM

LWM

Propaganda is propaganda. It isn't just something "the other side" does that refutes your propaganda, spin, slant or bias and doesn't fit with your less than objective or preferred framing.

And you totally miss the point of doing a ride along. You won't be doing one in a situation like this. Another point. As much as the RNC is the opposition, this is a democracy and their convention is part of the democratic process...

One is free to question her take on what she saw. It looked all right to me but I'm not getting into the lectures about propaganda or any of the rest of it right now. I was just keeping it light. You're getting too steamed in regards to my specific post.

And I know what a 'ride along' is and I know one wouldn't do it in a situation like that. Again, not into the lectures, and don't need the 'education' as much as you seem to think.

I don't remember what else you wrote in the post, but I've covered it well enough anyway. It really is 2:30 AM here. I'm not even supposed to be awake much less replying to a fired up comment post.

Wednesday, September 3, 2008 02:35 AM

-- pieceofcake

Go to sleep, young lady.

But before you do, read these two accounts of two different incidents and make a full report in the morning.

Oakland, 2003

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20030617/ai_n14551626

That is the Oakland Trib, not the crappy AP piece carried by Common Dreams, and much more damning of the police.

And this:

St. Paul, 2008

http://www.twincities.com/ci_10356273?source=most_viewed

You would have to be a blind ideologue not to see the difference.

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