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Monday, September 1, 2008 12:00 AM

Scenes from St. Paul -- Democracy Now's Amy Goodman arrested

Scores of people are tear-gassed. At least 250 people are arrested. And St. Paul is as militarized a scene as one will see in an American city.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008 09:05 AM

today's press statement from the RNC Welcoming Committee

click on my name ...

If you want to help, send money for legal fees ... organize a benefit to raise funds for legal fees ... if you're a lawyer, volunteer.

It was true in the civil rights era and it's true today.

Most municipalities are hip to the tactic of deliberately provoking "mass arrests" for the purpose of swamping "the system" ... but it still has some utility in some instances (though "hide the arrestee" is an artform long practiced nationwide)

Tuesday, September 2, 2008 09:07 AM

Good little lemmerican

If it is not on video, it must be a lie! Which is why the feds preemptively went after those who intended (and did in the past) to film events? If it is not on film it did not happen unless power said it did. That is how it works.

Amy Goodman then said that she had been pushed to the ground when she was arrested. But it appears to me, so far, that that was a lie. The video all of us have seen shows her NOT being pushed to the ground. So I ask whether Amy Goodman lied about being pushed to the ground, and whether she is lying about other aspects of this incident.

Is that clear enough for you?

-- Elephantman

Oh, yes, loud and clear. You've earned your ration of porridge.

Tuesday, September 2, 2008 09:10 AM

EDung

I answered your question pages ago about Amy Goodman and being pushed to the "ground". Why don't you read it and then run along back to RedState before you get a sore throat from endlessly repeating yourself?

Tuesday, September 2, 2008 09:11 AM

Brendan Kiley (of Seattle's alt weekly, The Stranger) was also sprayed...

immediately after he ID'd himself as a journalist:

http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/oh_oh_oh_im_on_fire

Tuesday, September 2, 2008 09:11 AM

Someone want to tell me

Why I have to go to the British press to get coverage of the Iraq War Veterans march at the Republican National Convention?

Maybe Elephantman can fill us all in on why that is.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/01/uselections2008.republicans2008

The Republican party staunchly supports the US presence in Iraq. John McCain, an early backer of the war and a proponent of the recent surge in US troops there, has said he will withdraw US troops only as conditions on the ground permit. Democratic nominee Barack Obama has pledged to withdraw US combat forces within 16 months...

Or how about this:

"The war goes on Iraq everyday, and thousands and thousands of people made plans to be here," said Jess Sundin, a march organiser. "We will bring our message to the delegates that are here today and those that are coming along later I'm sure will hear all about it. Our united goal is to stop the war in Iraq, but we're linking that with our understanding of the need to spend money on human needs instead of war, to demand peace, justice and equality, and say no to the Republican agenda."

Don't see Glenn posting any images of this, either:

...Among the protesters Monday was Melida Arredondo, who pulled a mock coffin draped with an American flag behind her. Her stepson Alexander, a Marine, was killed in 2004 in Najaf, Iraq.
"I am very much angered, as a gold star mom, that John McCain is saying that he will continue the occupation of Iraq to vindicate the fact that my son was killed there," she said. "My son loved the Iraqi people, believed in the Iraqi people, was fed by the Iraqi people and he would not want the occupation to continue."

By the way, did anyone see Democracy Now covering any of the Iraq War Veterans at the RNC?

No - instead she chose to go with a story about a group of Vietnam veterans who were protesting McCain's Vietnam war record. That's funny... I mean, I would say that that is a story intended to remind everyone that McCain was a prisoner of war for years.

No coverage of Iraq War veterans at the RNC from Amy or Glenn? Sorry, but I do find that to be just a little bit odd.

And why did Amy Goodman take $150,000 from the Ford Foundation in 2004, the same year the ACLU refused a $1.5 million grant because of the "anti-terrorism restrictions" it included?

http://www.fordfound.org/pdfs/impact/ar2004.pdf

Would someone please ask Amy Goodman about that?

Tuesday, September 2, 2008 09:14 AM

The problem on view is over-armed, over-militarized response

Nobody pulled their gun on Amy Goodman. They led her away from where I presume she was obstructing police officers who were in the process of arresting others. That is what Amy Goodman is now charged with, a misdemeanor. They led her away, by her arm. She resisted, physically, and (I'd be the first to admit) mildly. The force applied was equally mild. -- Elephantman

There is no evidence for your presumption in the vids we've seen, and plenty to suggest otherwise. Her request to speak with a commanding officer was unexceptional, unequivocal and very clear. She tried to clarify why she wanted to do so. Middle aged ladies with multiple press passes dangling from their necks are not the natural allies of monkeywrenching "anarchists".

Amy Goodman then said that she had been pushed to the ground when she was arrested. But it appears to me, so far, that that was a lie. The video all of us have seen shows her NOT being pushed to the ground. -- Elephantman

The video I saw showed her pushed over the hood of a car, and I suspect that is what she meant to refer to. The functional difference between that and being pushed to the ground is pretty slim, and of importance only to propagandists who can use it to impute vague and sundry "lies".

I tend to agree with omooex and to some extent, L.W.M. about public street protests at party conventions; these acts have as much to do with real social improvement as the party conventions themselves.

But, I'm increasingly dismayed by the Rambo-DieHard-BlackHawkDown school of domestic policing. Ondelette is quite right to focus on it in the context of U.S. politics, and domestic policy. It's where our problems lie -- not with the inevitable ~125 "anarchists" (who will grow up to be ultra-rightists just like David Horowitz did) but with the normalization of excessive shows of force against the citizenry.

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