Here is some Minneapolis Star-Tribune reporting:

http://www.startribune.com/politics/27736044.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUncacyi8cyaiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

And to the friendly soul below who suggested that "hunting is a mental illness": Can you possibly get that into the Democratic Party Platform? Or perhaps on the Obama website. That's a winning plank, for sure. I fear, however, that dedicated hunter John Kerry is going to be disappointed that he'll be needing therapy.

Wow, that Glenn Greenwald video sure is (yawn) shocking!

Was just watching Chicago Ten and then put on a CD of Phil Ochs performing live shortly after the '68 convention and now...

Elephant-guy from on-high quips (Is that the right word for something not very clever??): "And to the friendly soul below who suggested that "hunting is a mental illness": Can you possibly get that into the Democratic Party Platform? Or perhaps on the Obama website. That's a winning plank, for sure. I fear, however, that dedicated hunter John Kerry is going to be disappointed that he'll be needing therapy."

Hmmm. Maybe a mental illness is a bit strong. Your 'sociopathy' IS a mental illness. Hunting is just an abberation. Sheesh, most of us comprehend that you don't have to bwast a wascally wabbit to really really really prove that you're smarter than it . . .

but I digress.

And WTF is with the "to the friendly soul below"?? You got a Messiah complex?? You orbiting the planet??

Look at the video kimocrossman put up, Ms. Goodman explains what she was doing and what happened in a bit of detail. I don't think you have a minority report on this.

-- ondelette

That was impressive. A few minutes out of lockup and she transformed in a nanosecond from tired looking and worn down from the ordeal to, a bulldog reporter loaded for bear! "These charges also better be...dropped."

Well, one thing we know is that I was right when I questioned whether she'd have been picked out for arrest. Naturally, since I wrote it, one or two Salonistas immediately sepculated that she had been picked out for arrest.

We also know that Amy Goodman doesn't know how her two producers were arrested. What exactly they were doing at the time of their arrest, etc. Amy Goodman wasn't there. She said she was called from the convention floor.

Amy Goodman then went to the scene of the arrests. What exactly happened there, I don't know. We know what Amy Goodman says. I'll be interested to know what the police say happened. As hard as it may be to imagine, there are usually two sides to a story. Even after hearing Goodman, I still have no good idea how it was that she attempted to "free" her two producers. Police were in the process of arresting them. Amy Goodman tried to interfere, or intervene, or free them, depending on your own preferred terminology. My free legal advice to anyone in a similar situation; do not attempt to interfere with pollice officers in the course of an arrest, no matter how unlawful you think the arrest might be.

We do have Amy Goodman's statement (perhaps not knowing the extent to which her arrest had been video-recorded) saying that she had been "knocked to the ground" when she was arrested. I have in mind the notion of a citizen being "knocked to the ground" by police. I don't recall any such imagery from the video of Amy Goodman's arrest. This tape of Amy Goodman might just be of interest to attorneys defending the St. Paul police if they are subjected to a civil action by Amy Goodman. I'm going to have to look at the video again. Was she really knocked to the ground? Or was she exagerating the story, not knowing that a video recording would rebut her?

It may not look like much with the naked eye but if you look into Amy Goodman's heart you can tell there was a riot just waiting to happen. Sure, she wasn't doing anything 'outwardly'; no pushing or not even remotely resisting arrest but as a keen observer of human nature I can assure you that she was about to open a whole can of whup ass on those cops. Yup, she was about to unleash the awesome power of her 5'4", 115 pound frame and go ballistic on those four large officers armed to the hilt and covered in body armour.

Obviously some of you also didn't notice that she was armed with a pencil and a pad of paper. Glock 9mm's are no match for a maniac weilding a #2 pencil--and don't even get me started on how awful paper cuts can be.

So to you officers who brought this quasi-terrorist down, I salute you. Thank you for protecting and serving!

I inacurately quoted Amy Goodman as saying she had been "knocked to the ground."

Reviewing the video of her after release, I see that what she said was that she was "handcuffed, pushed to the ground."

Anybody see any video of her having been "pushed to the ground"?

I saw it as I was moving to Az about 10 years ago. I was driving the 26 foot U-Haul and had to go through a check point. This was on I-10 in AZ not the border and not some small back road. I thought it was a check point for fruit like CA had coming from Oregon (what's the two letter thing on that?. Ha! as Matthews says. They were looking for brown people. It was the border patrol asking for papers. I didn't have any. Do you travel with a notarized copy of your birth certificate or a passport? But I'm a white wasp from an upper middle class family. They were upper middle class as we didn't go on trips to disney land and dad got a company car. No car payments and dad went to summer camp as he was in the army reserves since wwII. He was what mom called a "quiet patriot".

He left the reserves when he was forced out as a general spot wasn't open at the time. "Move up or out".

He was happy that he was able to spend the weekends with family. He was happy that he went out around 60, a few years before he died of als. They did come back a few months later and offered him a general position but the quiet patriot said no, Family was more important after 50 years.

I remember as a kid - probably around 12 before I stopped listening to my parents at all - that my dad was having problems tolerating his current commander. It had gotten really bad and mom and dad were talking about him leaving the reserves. It was a big deal as he got money for the one weekend a month and the pension effects. At the dinner table we talked of how screwed the higher ups were. We aren't talking sargents (sp) here. We were talking about the generals that ran the war, the response to the russians rolling tanks into germany. The generals that were in charge of that. Dad said they were political generals and that before it was too late they would be replaced by the real soldiers that knew what they were doing. Is Patreus that general?

My dad also talked about tactical nuclear weapons as used in a battle field. Yes, the russians had vast superiority in conventional weapons but we'd use tactical nukes that we'd lob over the hill, and then advance on. Guess the rads weren’t bad. So that would buy us the time to get real generals into the war and knock out the conventional forces. We never got beyond that point…..

Ha, I'll probably be in jail tomorrow for voicing my opinion but at least I won't have to work;)

I have said to myself and others that I'm so liberal I'm conservative. We must not have laws restricting our rights to bear arms. The founding fathers were not thinking about hunting. That’s like writing about driving a car. They wouldn't think of such a thing. No, it was in regards to being able to hold a revolution if needed. To over throw a government which they were doing. It can’t happen here. Listen to the bigots I work with and think of the comparisons.

I'm heading out of the country while we can so I don't have to be a revolutionary or as it's called today a terrorist.

Perhaps I’ll live to fight another day. I sure as hell am not giving up my life for these idiots.

Flame off………

Oh ya, I have never used a fire arm but have used with my fater a pellet gun. He used it to help keep up his marksman ship award that the army gave him.