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Monday, September 1, 2008 12:00 AM

Scenes from St. Paul -- Democracy Now's Amy Goodman arrested

Scores of people are tear-gassed. At least 250 people are arrested. And St. Paul is as militarized a scene as one will see in an American city.

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Monday, September 1, 2008 07:27 PM

She's seen worse but, God, not here!

Thanks, El Cid, for the post which helped me remember the details I have been thinking about since I saw Glenn Greenwald's story and the YouTube video.

In the late 80s and early 90s I was a member, and sometime president, of Amnesty International USA Local Group #152. In addition to our work for our adopted prisoner, we belonged to a Regional Action Network. Our assigned area was the Philippines, East Timor and Iran Jaya. ...Years later I was working, at home, with my back to Book TV which I assumed would be a bore. I realized, after a while, that the speaker was telling a story I knew. It was about a massacre by a cemetary wall in East Timor years earlier. The speaker was saying she was there and her companion had had his head beat in by soldiers' rifles. I spun around. It was Amy Goodman, the earnest chick on my radio in the mornings. She's been my hero ever since.

Those bastards! I'm calling the police number that Democracy Now has posted. They need to know they can't do this in the dark. At least now for now.

Monday, September 1, 2008 07:30 PM

@Plate

You tell 'em, Plate. It isn't like we all haven't been telling Greenie (that's our pet name for him, but for God's sake, don't tell) the same things, but he'll listen to you!

Thanks. Say, you wouldn't mind withdrawing that "dink" would you? I don't want that pinned to my back from now on. I mean, if you think it's alright.

Monday, September 1, 2008 07:34 PM

@beetsme

-Sorry, I don't know how to condense.-

Easy, breezy.

Go to this link and bookmark it.

http://www.tiny.cc/

Any URL you care to link to, copy and paste into the input box on Tiny and click 'Tiny it'

Voila, the URL in condensed form is now on your clipboard waiting to be pasted intp your message.

Monday, September 1, 2008 07:37 PM

Even in Canada

-Even in freakin' Canada the police got nailed using agents provocateur, do you really think that American police are less likely to do something like that than Canadian ones?-

... where *everyone* knows the police are your friend and are only present to serve and protect, by golly.

Monday, September 1, 2008 07:39 PM

@ Reilly

-What I want to know Little Brother, is how the heck you can get it up when your hand is acting all pretentious and full of itself. What a turn-off! I always make mine into a pleasant but dumb blond.-

Latex gloves are doubly recommended because A) they resemble the shape of a hand and B) they are also inflatable.

Monday, September 1, 2008 07:39 PM

Careful, Plate. If you treat me with anything other than contempt, I think the Salon commenters will make a human sacrifice out of you.

Isn't it interesting that simple questions (Does anybody have video of Amy Goodman before she was arrested? Did anybody witness what she did or did not do?) Can't be answered here, but all manner of speculation (Stalinist tactics, etc.) and exortation (how to use PayPal accounts to send bail money) goes on notwithstanding.

Since we brought up NPR, I'll be interested to see if Garrison Keillor thinks his hometown ('til he sells his hometown home) police and mayor and fellow Minnesotans are "pigs." PHC was at the Minn. State Fair last Saturday. GK must have stuck around to witness Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '08.

Monday, September 1, 2008 07:41 PM

it's been real, it's been fun

...but not real fun, if you catch my drift and I know you do.

Ramadan mubarak, all y'all.

Monday, September 1, 2008 07:47 PM

Thank you Plate

"BTW Elephantman, it very quickly became apparent to me -first from Greenwald's temperamental and absurd reply - that you can't argue around here intelligently until you've beat on a few reactionary, singleminded lockstep heads. You have to use brute force. Here, I'll show you in my next post:"

You just cracked the porcelain and showed us who you really are. An arrogant Dung heap lover. Now we know how to treat your future posts.

Monday, September 1, 2008 07:49 PM

I rest my case...

Thank you Plate

"BTW Elephantman, it very quickly became apparent to me -first from Greenwald's temperamental and absurd reply - that you can't argue around here intelligently until you've beat on a few reactionary, singleminded lockstep heads. You have to use brute force. Here, I'll show you in my next post:"

You just cracked the porcelain and showed us who you really are. An arrogant Dung heap lover. Now we know how to treat your future posts.

-- Retired Military Patriot

See? I told you so.

Monday, September 1, 2008 07:52 PM

@RMP re: Plate tectonics

Don't say "we" RMP. I like Plate and thank him for his on-the-ground and funny contributions to this confab.

Monday, September 1, 2008 07:56 PM

Ellie and Tiberius off-message

Tibby: "Free publicity for her unknown program."

Ellie: "Except that I know that Amy Goodman will be on about 600 NPR stations tomorrow....."

Which is it, unknown program or 600 NPR stations? Clearly you two numb-nuts need to talk.

Oh, and for any of you partisan hacks here tonight that view Goodman as another leftie journo:

"When President Bill Clinton called WBAI on Election Day, 2000, for a quick get-out-the-vote message, Goodman and Gonzalo Aburto challenged him for 28 minutes with questions about Leonard Peltier, racial profiling, the Iraq sanctions, Ralph Nader, the death penalty, the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Clinton defended Democratic policies against criticism, but charged Goodman with being "hostile, combative, and even disrespectful."

Preposterous. How predictably liberal!

Monday, September 1, 2008 07:57 PM

@anonymust

If you want to identify funds for bonding purposes, etc., just ask donors to use a particular amount in the "cents."

For example, .29 or .08 or .77 or something like that.

Good idea! And if I hear from Glenn that it would be useful, I'll take that fundraising effort up on my blog. (I get paid by some folk via Paypal, but it is always in round dollars.)

Thanks!

Monday, September 1, 2008 08:02 PM

@ Paul Daniel Ash

-or what it's worth, I couldn't agree with you more that the time of the public protest has come and gone. It's preaching to the choir and turning off everybody else, counterproductive as hell, and dangerous to the participants besides.-

Some would argue that no fundamental political change has ever occurred that was not initiated with significant street protest.

ie: worker's rights / women's rights/ gay rights/ veteran's rights, etc.

Posting on the internet and other forms of protest are viable but so is making an appearance in the street and making oneself seen *and* heard, something which is a citizen's right, so far.

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