I think she was saying, "roister doister."

What planet have you been on for the last forty years or so?

Chicago 68, Kent State, COINTELPRO, Waco, Ruby Ridge, MOVE in Philadelphia, innumerable incredibly violent police shootings of unarmed people, Abner Louima, Seattle WTC.. I could go on virtually without end, this stuff just rolled off my fingertips. Jesus X Christ on a dayglo pogo stick, they did this to a MAYOR just a few weeks ago.

Even in freakin' Canada the police got nailed using agents provocateur, do you really think that American police are less likely to do something like that than Canadian ones?

If you weren't expecting and anticipating this level of reaction from the cops you are either unbelievably naive or a total idiot, take your pick.

"Little Brother, go f*ck your pompous little hand."-- The Plate

What I want to know Little Brother, is how the heck you can get it up when your hand is acting all pretentious and full of itself. What a turn-off! I always make mine into a pleasant but dumb blond.

Listen, The Plate - Just because he's Little Brother doesn't mean he has a little hand. I think you're taking license, Plate.

For the record, I think Amy's arrest took place far away from where all this happened, so, be prepared, this was an entirely different event.

Derbig: You can't outparty me.

-- The Plate

In regards to the rest of your post that I haven't quoted here--you keep explaining the same stuff over and over for some reason. I, and probably everyone else, heard you the first time.

As for Goodman and what you photographed being in different places--I've never figured otherwise. I mean, it's possible that the two events took place in close proximity, but that has at no time had anything to do with my opinion of what you photographed or your narration about what you photographed and filmed.

What if Glenn needs to do that eventually? Goodman does, as do dozens of others. How do we organize a Paypal drive to make sure these folks have the bucks? I'm willing to use my blog for it swearing on all that I hold dear that $ sent to my Paypal account will go only for that purpose if so designated, and any unused portions sent to those who are actually prosecuted for atty fees and defense costs.

Here's the pics I took while following the punk rock offshoot of the official march:

gallery.me.com/dboen#10003

The Macy's window that got smashed is fourth from the end, just after three shots of a cop car.

The last shot, by the way, is of a bunch of protesters blocking an intersection, and on the right hand side you can see a cop standing by allowing them to protest. That's two blocks away from where I live.

Other doubters, you also might want to consider this: St. Paul doesn't want a riot, and doesn't want mass destruction - it appeared to me that their policy seemed to be one of restraint - if the cops had torn into this group for no reason, or if these kids had been completely innocent, they'd have gone totally nuts. And I think the policy comes from the fact that it's okay to accept some damage here and there and let these punk rock goofballs do what they want, because it's much less expensive to do so - up to a point.

This is a bit beneath you. But I'll answer your question.

The IDF, in fact, can't draw a distinction between armed combatants and peaceful protesters. The reason they can't is because they occupy Palestine militarily. From the Israeli perspective, everyone must be treated on some level as an enemy combatant, because they are in fact, from a de jure persepective. Despite a few paens to human rights to the international community, in an occupation, all rights to assemble are by definition nullified. Thus, when the Israelis claim that they are protecting the civil rights of some Palestinian protesters while going after others, they are lying to themselves and the world. You cannot militarily occupy a country without treating all of its citizens as combatants. You cannot give them civil rights, you cannot give them access to legal infrastructure, you cannot treat them as citizens. And I cannot ask them to do so without normalizing their occupation and authorizing them to rule over me. The only reason you could even bring up that analogy is that Americans tend to see the conflict the way Israel wants them to. Or perhaps you've bitten the hook of our occupation of Iraq as an exercise in liberation and completely democratic in nature? Touche, my friend, the one.

Contrast that with what is going on here. The City of Minneapolis, the state of Minnesota and the Federal Government have an obligation to the citizens of Minneapolis, the political officials of the RNC and other associated guests to protect them from public dangers. This is one of the main functions of a society, philosophically, morally, legally. A gathering of hundreds of people, a dozen or so of which may be armed with the intent of causing harm to citizens, and causing unintentional harm to others, would present a pretty awkward problem. How do you protect the right of protest of Americans, while still protecting the safety of the other citizens of your city and country. Its a question worth thinking about, and one that you cannot escape if you are really looking for answers.

Haha!

Well... you know... even if it's little, it could still be pompous, and therefore swollen to some degree...

interfered and resisted. That always leads to an arrest, especially in a charged environment.

She got what she wants. Free publicity for her unknown program.

@Elephantman

...and it showed Amy Goodman interfering with officers who were arresting the two Democracy Now! producers.

And what earthly reason would the the officers have to arrest the two Democracy Now! producers? You want me to believe they were rioting, or causing a disruption, or even demonstrating?

-- macgupta

I don't know. Do you? They might have been in an area that they were not spposed to be. They might have been diong something that they were not supposed to be doing. They might have been merely detained, and were being questioned, and Amy Goodman interfered with that. Again, I don't know. But you seem to know. How long, exactly, have you been there in St. Paul?

I swear to God, this is like the ninth grade, with all sorts of rumors and innuendo flying all about. The crazier, the more accusatory and conspiratorial, the better.

It ordinarily wouldn't be worth my time to try to counter-attack with nothing more than modest common-sense. Except that I know that Amy Goodman will be on about 600 NPR stations tomorrow, falsley accusing Republicans of creating a police state. And the notion that public media is being used for that purpose, unrebutted, will be almost too much to bear.

Seriously, can't you just predict it? Amy Goodman will get the career boost of a lifetime. NPR News, On the Media, Terry Gross, News and Notes, Bill Moyers, Tavis Smiley. She'll get almost as much public media air-time as Ron Suskind. Wait, nobody gets that much public-sponsored air-time. Not even Garrison Keillor.