So far, considering what I have seen and based on my assessments of the credibility and inherent bias of the various reports, my feeling is this was handled appropriately.

The evidence very clearly shows otherwise.

100 is not 1% of 10,000.

Are you sure about that?

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to finish filling these balloons with my own urine. I'm not getting enough attention and I have a coffee house full of anarchists and iPod wearing glibertarians to urine bomb.

Confessions of criminal intent are always welcome. What else you got planned?

@L.W.M. (September 3, 2008 03:50 PM):

"@Associative Individualist

"I know William Timberman.

"You are no William Timberman.

"But keep trying. You might approximate a cross between a Brightstar with a brain and Chris Sinnard you can take to meet your parents."

I appreciate the unexpected compliment that I am no William F. Buckley Timberman, LW, but that's hardly responsive to my plea for you to put Baldie and your other wannabe sympathizers out of their cognitively dissonant misery that's been engendered by your occasional lapses from unembarrassed authoritarianism.

You have perplexed these young people, LW, and you have an ethical obligation to lead them up and out of their confusion.

Will you rise to the occasion or not?

Please.

Any guesses as to how many secret 'detention centers' Dubya may have going overseas?

Any guesses as to how many US political protesters Bush may have in them?

Any guesses as to how many of those may have been tortured and killed?

Promise me the answer is 'zero'.

Pigs abuse their power ALL the time because it is almost impossible to win a case against a pig. I know. Ive tried. They lie for each other. They lose evidence for each other. And most of what they do ends up being a matter of your word vs. the pig and the pig always wins in those situations.

I've had a similar experience myself, where some little sh*t thinks that it's a perfect time to go wailing at me in a holding cell with a half dozen other cops standing around in a circle in case they get a chance at the "fun"....

I didn't hit back (a wise move), but went and got pictures taken the next morning when I got out and took them to the lawyer. He "explained" (in the inimitable Ring Lardner fashion) that it would be their word against mine, and that I didn't need to provoke them more or it would be more difficult for me in court.

Strangest part is that I knew the assistant DA, and went in to talk to him. He said, "Arne, what were you doing?"? I read the report (a pack'o'lies), and said "that's not what happened". He said, "but that's the report..."

Cheers,

I don't like it when our current administration does it vis a vis Iraq and Iran and I don't care for you attempt at it either.

Just calling a spade a spade, neocon.

Is anybody still fooled by your pretense to being a 'moderate liberal'?

We may have found one more plank for the Obama platform...

I Fucking Hate Pigs

Fuck the police and all their apologists.

-- The Fool

Dunno about that, but I was listening to ("monitoring"?) the RW foamer Mike Gallagher's show one day, in the aftermath of the Abner Louima/Amadou Diallo cases. Someone had called to say the police were pigs. A subsequent caller said that he hoped that this person found himself alone in an alley with a bunch of police someday, a sentiment with which Gallagher agreed. Sounds to me like it's the RW foamers that are of the considered opinion that the police are indeed "pigs" ... even though these same RW foamers are too stoopid to realise it.

Cheers,

But only after they've gotten away with brutal political suppression. Mission accomplished.

If they'd massacred protesters they'd say exactly the same thing. No telling how many will be subject to 'extraordinary rendition' and never seen again. It would be a civil rights issue if Americans had any, but pubs are working by the China model.

-- Godot..

It is blatant fear mongering.

I don't like it when our current administration does it vis a vis Iraq and Iran and I don't care for you attempt at it either.

I know William Timberman.

You are no William Timberman.

But keep trying. You might approximate a cross between a Brightstar with a brain and Chris Sinnard you can take to meet your parents.

Actually, most of the charges from that incident were dropped and the police acknowledged error.

But only after they've gotten away with brutal political suppression. Mission accomplished.

If they'd massacred protesters they'd say exactly the same thing. No telling how many will be subject to 'extraordinary rendition' and never seen again. It would be a civil rights issue if Americans had any, but pubs are working by the China model.

Actually, most of the charges from that incident were dropped and the police acknowledged error. That's because lawyers and employees of law firms were swept up. Who knows what would have happened if reglar folks were there.

-- Baldie McEagle

My comments weren't really directed at you. I was merely anticipating the argument I thought you'd get, because certain posters don't accept facts when they are contrary to their oft-stated (some call them "consistent") positions. Rather, they make up new ones that they like better.

@Baldie McEagle writes (September 3, 2008 11:41 AM):

"Why is he [LWM] so unaffected by the fact that 1% of protesters are used so cynically---and easily---to discredit the other 99%? If he's preaching rational objectivity, that's fine---I agree there too. You need to be objective about your own weaknesses to successfully engage and defeat an enemy. But you don't achieve that by denying emotions such as anger and fear, but by acknowledging them."

For God's sake, LW, will you please put Baldie McEagle and your other wannabe sympathizers out of their cognitive-dissonance misery and just admit to them that you are a gendarme in your gonads, a martinet in your marrow, a skull-cracking cop in your coeur, an unabashed anal-sadistic authoritarian to the bone?

And if that doesn't clear things up for them, then just leave 'em be.