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Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:00 AM

Massive police raids on suspected protesters in Minneapolis

Several "hippie homes" are raided this morning by semi-automatic-weapon-wielding police squads.

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:46 AM

Chilling Words

When Mr. Greenwald wrote "unauthorized protests" a chill went up my spine.

The idea of "authorizing protests" is completely and absolutely antithetical to the notion of a free state.

Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:54 AM

And you and Che know this how, exactly?

Che Pasa is right: the coming lawsuits won't accomplish a damn thing.

Why not wait for the lawyers to sort it out? That's why God invented pro bono public interest attorneys.

Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:56 AM

Kitt, you're asking the impossible here.

You're trying to sell Palin as a heavyweight. The jokes write themselves. John McCain put "Country First" by choosing Palin? That is one hard sell. -- Kitt

Kitt, shooter242 couldn't sell water in a desert. He manages to undercut his argument against the candidates, even as he miscounts their number, in one fell swoop by appealing to something too insubstantial to mean anything. And, given his shaky command of english, doesn't appear to even realize it.

I will admit Governor Palin has proven quite a popular choice, at least among Democrats. Oh, she could be a trap to portray Senator Biden as an old meany, especially if she goes into hysterics during their debate. But the woman's such a professional disaster its hard to see her bringing anything to the table beyond her chromosome structure, something a lot of Republicans and fringe dwellers have already picked up on.

In short, let's not give shooter242 more credit than is his actual capacity.

Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:59 AM

Here's the difference between Katrina in 2005 and Gustav in 2008.

There will be adults in charge, instead of Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin. Nagin is still there, but he'll be instructed on how to manage his city.

The warnings to New Orleans' underclass will be unmistakable and irrefutable. Instead of their ignoring President Bush's telling everyone, on national television, to evacuate, this time people will know better. Bobby Jindal has told them that they won't be able to the Superdome. And hopefully, some cajun will be smart enough to secure all of the barges before one breaks loose and smashes into a levee.

Then, all we'll be left with is Don Fowler and Michael Moore having told the world that this was God's message to Republicans.

Sunday, August 31, 2008 09:02 AM

Raids

Totally unconstitutional. The Ramsey County sheriff should be removed from his job for organizing illegal raids. The judge who oked the warrants should be reported to the Judicial Council for gross negligence and not understanding the Constitution from which his power emanates. The individuals should of course sue the police and demand retraining of the officers involved so they understand an illegal order from their boss.

Sunday, August 31, 2008 09:02 AM

Actually

The idea of "authorizing protests" is completely and absolutely antithetical to the notion of a free state.

-- MarieA

It has more to do with a municipality's permits board procedures than anything else. It has absolutely nothing to do with the State of Minnesota or the Federal Govt. But it does sound more ominous and terrifying the way you describe it.

;-)

Check the city board of permits procedures.

Sunday, August 31, 2008 09:04 AM

The main problem with McTemper's Palin pick

Joe Klein on Swampland (see sig) explains the real problem with the Palin pick by McTemper. The drubbing that Klein took from Glenn, had its affect and I admire Klein for listening.

Indeed, the Palin pick reflects the most dangerous tendencies in McCain's foriegn policy--the tendency to react, to overreact, to crises, without thinking it through. It also reflects a defiant, adolescent "screw you" attitude toward governance. I always thought McCain's best choice for vice president was Rob Portman--the former Congressman and Office of Management and Budget director from Ohio. Portman is smooth, attractive, extremely smart, reliably conservative, but he also knows how the federal government works. His experience as OMB director would have enabled McCain to say, "I've picked a guy who knows where all the bodies are buried, where all the waste is." The Ohio part of the program wouldn't have hurt McCain in locking down that crucial state, either. But the pick would have been seen as safe, unexciting--and John McCain doesn't like safe. Which is a real problem in a President.

Again, this is not to disparage Palin. Her views seem very extreme to me--teaching "intelligent design" in schools?--but she may turn out to be a invigorating public presence, with the ability to learn fast (she's going to have to do the latter). The problem is, there is absolutely no way on earth that John McCain can know what sort of person she really is, which is why this choice--his first major presidential decision--should be a matter of real concern for all Americans. He has proven himself, yet again, ready on day one--to shoot from the hip.

http://time-blog.com/swampland/?xid=newsletter-daily

Sunday, August 31, 2008 09:06 AM

@LWM

"Why not wait for the lawyers to sort it out? That's why God invented pro bono public interest attorneys."

Having defended animal rights activists as a public interest attorney myself, I have no doubt that these police raids will end up in court and that the arrested will receive big wads of cash.

And in four years, it will happen again.

Sunday, August 31, 2008 09:11 AM

Che, then Glenn

Yes, Che it was Santa Rita.

Glenn, I didn't just get involved in political organizing eight years ago. I didn't just notice that things were fucked up in this country in 2006. I have been involved in this stuff since 1992, the first gulf war and have been arrested in these kinds of situations in various states, cities and even countries. And not as a lawyer, but as a pretty poor non-white ativist wondering why there were only white people at these demonstrations and why I was never able to take enough time off work or have enough money to go to Seattle and elsewhere.

No I wasn't there, but I feel pretty confident about my statement, and your video indicates the truth prima facae. Most members of Food Not Bombs, and other organizations that coalesce around Indy Media to demonstrate at national level events are mostly white and mostly affluent. Think about it for a moment--a group of people who can take a week off and travel from across the country and risk geting arrested? I would in fact be surprised if they weren't. Its an issue that's been at the forefront of these kinds of politics for over a decade and one that the left in this case is very vulnerable on.

On this issue, you are the one getting up to speed. I respect your expertise on questions of constitutional law and respect your capapcity for research. But I was angry about this shit when you were one of the apathetic affluent people we were extolling to wake up and get active.

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