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Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:00 AM

Massive police raids on suspected protesters in Minneapolis

Several "hippie homes" are raided this morning by semi-automatic-weapon-wielding police squads.

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Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:23 AM

Kitt

Thanks for the link to the warrant, it worked fine.

Now, how about the affidavits used to get the warrant?

Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:23 AM

Heh...

@Retired Military Patriot

I've told you and anyone else who would listen numerous times what to do. Obviously you just don't listen. I'm getting tired of repeating myself.

Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:23 AM

Che Pasa is right: the coming lawsuits won't accomplish a damn thing.

"The Upshot: We can expect those who were arrested to be released and charges dropped. SOP. . . . The Authorities will have accomplished their mission, and nothing at all will interfere with carrying out whatever new mission of suppression they decide on in the future."

Agreed. New York City just paid several million dollars in damages resulting from their police's Gestapo tactics during the 2004 Republican Party Convention. So what? Citizens were still arrested and prevented from protesting. Millions of dollars that should have gone to worthy institutions in dire need of funds -- food banks or public schools or animal shelters, etc. -- were spent instead on the lawsuit and subsequent damage awards. Meanwhile, the wealthy elite of New York continue to eat at the finest restaurants and go to fancy hotels with their $1000/night hookers. Nothing has changed except that the poor and vulnerable suffer more, the middle class are suckers, and the wealthy could not care less.

This reminds me of what the gun nuts and death penalty fetishists of this country will never understand: rather than control guns, they are satisfied with executing murderers. But by then, the damage has been done, and innocent people have been killed by criminals. Rather than prevent murder, the Right would rather punish people after the fact.

Did the Greatest Generation really fight and die in World War Two so that Governor Tim Pawlenty could act like a nazi?

Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:31 AM

Get ready for the YouTube moment of the 2008 campaign...

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/absentee/2008/aug/30/fowler-fouls-hurricane-is-gods-favor-to-dem/

It's now up on Drudge. The Macaca moment of the year. All I can say is to quote one word, admittedly out of context, from former DNC Chairman Don Fowler: "...God..."

Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:31 AM

dum-dum bullets VS. idiot-idiot bullets, you vote

"There is clearly an intent on the part of law enforcement authorities here to engage in extreme and highly intimidating raids against those who are planning to protest the Convention. The DNC in Denver was the site of several quite ugly incidents where law enforcement acted on behalf of Democratic Party officials and the corporate elite that funded the Convention to keep the media and protesters from doing anything remotely off-script. But the massive and plainly excessive preemptive police raids in Minnesota are of a different order altogether"

All the more reason why we MUST support Obama; he's only police state...ish.

Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:31 AM

Aych

Now, how about the affidavits used to get the warrant?

-- Aycharaych

Yeah, that would be interesting because the affidavits -if there even are any - would most likely have to have come from infiltrators.

I'm hoping that as this goes on we will learn much more about the legal and or illegality of law enforcement's hand in all of this.

Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:33 AM

Yes, Elephantman. Bill Ayers is 'available.'

Like I said before, Bill Ayers is available. Let's get him up there, and show the kids how to build bombs in their homes. -- Elephantman

As is Usama Bin Laden, who shares your passionate desire to see American citizens killed in record numbers. Bill Ayers, not so much.

But I'm presupposing you're calculating enough to make that connection. You've already laid clear you're insane enough to try it, but I'm doubting you've the capacity to accomplish anything.

Once more, please get some help before you hurt someone else. Compassion is in short supply and there's none to spare for the deliberate terrorist (if if they are American-born).

Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:33 AM

sK-K-Kooter

-Pushing a button, yes or no, is not executive experience. That goes for all three of the Senators.-

But not the vastly more experienced beauty-queen runner-up.

That's experience you can believe in....

Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:40 AM

Great! This article has been picked up for today's Common Dreams (meaning it will get a wider audience) ...

I had missed that last paragraph re I-Witness -- sounds like they picked the wrong group to strong arm ...

The Uptake has this amazing video interview with the Democracy Now producer who was detained today. As the DN producer explains, she was present at a meeting of a group called "I-Witness" -- which videotaped police behavior at the 2004 GOP Convention in New York and helped get charges dismissed against hundreds of protesters who were arrested. The police surrounded the St. Paul house where they were meeting even though they had no warrant, told them that anyone who exited the house would be arrested, and then -- even though they finally, after several hours, obtained a warrant only for the house next door -- basically broke into the house, pointed weapons at everyone inside, handcuffed them, searched the house, and then left. Here is a blog post from one of the members of I-Witness asking for help during the time when they were forced to stay inside the house (see the second post -- it reads like a note from a hostage crying out for help). This is truly repugnant, extreme police behavior designed to intimidate protesters, police critics and others, and it ought to infuriate anyone and everyone who cares about basic liberties.

Did they ever get a warrant for the "wrong house?"

Sounds like at least "false imprisonment" or even "kidnapping" charges might stick.

Sunday, August 31, 2008 08:44 AM

Help Elephantman find some new material. Please!

From the (gods, I can't believe I'm quoting this) RedState.com post he cites:

On a plane from Denver to Charlotte following the Democrats' convention, I found myself seated behind former National Chairman of the Democratic National Committee Don Fowler and Congressman John Spratt of South Carolina. Their conversation was interesting to say the least.

Admission of hearsay anyone?

For example, they made fun of Sarah Palin for several minutes, Fowler calling her "Dan Quayle" on steroids and Spratt creatively describing her as "just terrible." They both agreed that, "Other than the simple fact that she's a female," she has nothing to offer.

In order: Fowler is correct and she little more than an energetic retread of Quayle, Spratt is correct as her record of governance is nearly as bad as George W Bush's, and its true that she brings nothing to the table beyond her chromosome structure.

Then there was this gem of a moment from Fowler:

Well, your fellow travelers on the fringe tend to equate every tragedy and heartache in the world to 'God's will'. You therefore have to admit the deity must be royally pissed with the GOP if Gustav not only goes from a Tropical Storm to a Category 4 hurricane in less than 24 hours, and is scheduled to make landfall when Bush is himself scheduled to speak.

The fact it will hit more or less where Katrina did in '05 only serves to remind everyone of the tragedy the GOP allowed to play out three years ago. There were failings at the state and local level to be sure, but those pale in comparison to the neglect and incompetence at the federal level.

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