A beautiful example of a positive put down. I feel so much better about this election because I followed my wife’s advice to “stop bitching at the TV, and get out and do something, or shut up!”

The job of the person driving the ambulance is to keep moving towards the destination. They coordinate with the dispatcher about what routes are available. The dispatcher is in touch with local PD about road blockages and so forth. The ambulance will, if necessary, change the hospital they intend to go to. A demonstration won't really affect them unless the mother is at the demonstration itself, and the demonstrators personally make it difficult or dangerous for the medics to do their jobs. And no one in a traffic jam or a critical mass is ever held responsible because an ambulance can't get through.

Far more likely in a confrontation between police and demonstrators is that the police start trying to tell the medics what treatment they can and can't provide for people who've been roughed up. In that case, the ambulance people are supposed to advocate for their patients, and insist on proper treatment.

If the intersection was blocking access to a bridge, then maybe an ambulance could be blocked. I don't think someone has to cross the river between Minneapolis and St. Paul to find a hospital. What have totally benign demonstrations accomplished in putting a stop to the criminal acts by our government? The M$M needs something sensational to pay attention to those noisy lefties and unimportant citizens.

I have heard people on this thread say that we need something dramatic as happened in the Nam protests to actually make a difference. I am not advocating dangerous violence. The only war protest in Chicago that got significant media attention was when traffic was snarled on a major lake shore drive by marchers insisting on walking down it.

-- Retired Military Patriot

Most of this stuff is completely counter-productive. It only gives the existing power structures another excuse to crack down. Take Code Pink, for instance. Any benefit derived in publicizing the war is counteracted, in my view, by alienating some, if not most, in the military community. I've watched videos of interactions at the recruiting office in Berkeley. Really stupid waste of time, in my opinion. Code Pink didn't come off looking good and neither did the counter-protesters.

The recruiting office came off looking best because they stayed out of it. And there are plenty of abuses recruiters engage in that one could draw attention to and protest but they wouldn't get the media attention as that stupid stunt in Berkeley. There are some people here who would prefer we have no military at all. What fools they be, eh?

-Too bad. You'll note that I specifically mentioned "rock throwers". -

And any innocents or journalists who happen to be in the vicinity.

-19 guys with box cutters traumatized an entire nation.-

I heard that 'theory'.

-Who carries pee and poop around with them while walking in a demonstration?-

Someone did that? Last I heard on CNN, the cops collected those items from a house with, read carefully now, *no functioning plumbing*, and not from anarchists carrying 'pee and poop around with them while walking in a demonstration'.

-Pussies-

There you go with the projection again

if im not mistaken the "conspiracy to riot law' was inacted in the early 20 th century and is often refered to asthe anti-anarchy law.They used this to raid and detain Emma Goldman and Bergman among others.

If they're pulling this out,then id be looking up the other laws they used to disuade assembly in public places. Some ,i think, were as vague as to make it illegal to meet in public or private while discussing any other system of gov.other than the one in place here.

Again,I could be mistaken ,but I have a memory of reading about these in some of Emmas writings.

We both know criticizing is a lot easier than finding solutions. I know your age and health makes it hard for you to follow my wife's advice, but let's stop nitpicking and talk about solutions. You're not using your depth of knowledge and ability to search the Internet, through this kind of critiquing.

thanks god for the missing toilet and i did my duty - i converted at least 9 Republicans to vote for Obama.

It's so nice to see the lunatic anti-Semite fringe represented here, as usual. Please tell me, under what moronic logic can you connect this to AIPAC?

-- zenwick

There is nothing antisemitic or "lunatic fringe" about questioning AIPA's motives and propaganda. AIPAC does not represent Jews persey. And AIPAC is forever bringing up some outlier - true or false - exclamation from someone who has advocated that Israel has no right to exist. Thus, the connection to the comment. AIPAC does that in order to deepen their propaganda, which is aimed at fomenting wars. As they did for the invasion of Iraq. As they are now doing for their hoped for attacks on Iran.

Please, cool it with the nonsense about antisemitism on this comment board. That's horse shit and you know it.

they could print t-shirts for these policemen - I WENT TO A RAID AND ALL I GOT WAS A BUCKET OF PEE!

I have actually been deeply involved in just such grassroots activism to curb the excesses of out of control local law enforcement. Success? Well, things are better...Not perfect. Better. The steps I outlined were the steps we took, and law enforcement mostly got the message. Vigilance has to be constant for backsliding is always the default.

-Palin has more actual executive experience than all three of the other nominees combined-

Really!

****After the surprise announcement Friday, the McCain campaign tried to frame Palin as a reformer who has taken on corruption in Alaska. However, an examination of her career as a small-town mayor and inexperienced governor reveals an official prone to petty squabbles and personal retaliation.

In 1996, after winning the election to be mayor of Wasilla, then a town with a population of 5,000, Palin sought to oust six department heads because they had signed a letter supporting the previous mayor, their old boss.

Palin ultimately fired two of them, the police chief and the museum director, and pushed two others into quitting.

In 1997, some residents considered her actions so high-handed that they tried to initiate a recall election.

“Four months of turmoil have followed in which almost every move by Palin has been questioned,” the Associated Press reported in a Feb. 11, 1997 dispatch. “Critics argue the [Palin] decisions are politically motivated.”.........

In 2003, she reported Ruedrich to Gov. Frank Murkowski’s administration, saying she suspected him of an ethics breach in conducting work for the state GOP on government time.

To obtain evidence of Ruedrich’s alleged malfeasance, Palin hacked into his computer, an ethical lapse in its own right. She resigned from the commission in January 2004.****

http://tiny.cc/HiJ1h

I guess you are correct, if that qualifies as 'experience'.